Independence Day - Resurgence

[Gil T.Azell]

1:12 Why does the Speech from the first movie seem to make this one seem fake?
and the fact that Brent Spiner is in this as Dr. Okun (didn't he die in the first one?)

I'll take a wait and see on this.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Among the many things about the trailer I like...Bill Pullman's character seems to almost take on the same type of role as Randy Quaid in the first film.

He's in a suit, so he's probably still respected. It could be that he's in not doing so well due to that moment when the alien he spoke to seemed to attack him mentally when it showed him their plan.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Based on the dialog in the trailer, the Aliens are making contact with him again apparently through his dreams. Whitmore does seem very weary in all the scenes featuring him in the trailer. Perhaps the telepathic contact or sleep deprivation is taking it's toll.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

The film looks a bit too serious.. at least in tone.. but the visuals look in line with the film Looks like a real sequel in terms of how it's filmed.

Gil T. Azell I love your avatar..!

 

[Morpheus 02]

I thought the sequel to Independence Day would be Labor Day.

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I would've called the sequel Memorial Day. Labor Day would be the YouTube video documented the reconstruction since the last movie


And then New Year's Day for the 3rd movie

 

[Samurai8472]

1:12 Why does the Speech from the first movie seem to make this one seem fake?
and the fact that Brent Spiner is in this as Dr. Okun (didn't he die in the first one?)

I'll take a wait and see on this.

1- The aliens probably heard the speech and made their way here. Probably why it's cut off.

I have a feeling we'll hear it in the beginning then it cuts out.

2- They could retcon it so Dr. Okun has been in a coma for 20 years. He wakes up when the aliens get closer.

He'll still be out of touch since he missed the last 20 years.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

and the fact that Brent Spiner is in this as Dr. Okun (didn't he die in the first one?)

The last we saw of him Adam Baldwin was checking his pulse and then looked up all grim, but he didn't say one way or the other whether he was dead. So he was apparently still alive but in a deep coma due to a combination of the tentacle choke and the telepathic connection to the alien when it was shot. Plus, Pullman was hurt from connecting to the alien for less than a minute, and Okun was connected for longer, so he might have more damage and a stronger telepathic connection to them.

The aliens probably heard the speech and made their way here. Probably why it's cut off.

I have a feeling we'll hear it in the beginning then it cuts out.

I doubt the speech will play any actual role in the plot. I think the cut-off thing where Pullman says "Today we celebrate our -----static-----" was just a stylistic choice to lead to the title card saying Independence Day.

I think the second wave of aliens were always on their way here no matter what, not that it had anything to do with hearing radio signals. I bet the first wave was meant to establish a beachhead and the second wave is for colonization, hence the much larger ship.

 

[Beagleman]

This movie looks exactly like what I wanted when I was 11 and the original came out. I can't wait to see this.

I was 12, the hours my buddies and me spend discussing a possible sequel. It always ended in: humanity adopts their tech to some degree, starts rebuilding, then a few years later they come back bigger and badder. Sure, not the most creative idea... I'm high-fiving myself back through time right now.

 

[bigdaddy]

The film looks a bit too serious.. at least in tone.. but the visuals look in line with the film Looks like a real sequel in terms of how it's filmed.

Gil T. Azell I love your avatar..!

I thought the same thing and then looked at the trailer for the first movie and it looks rather serious too.

It is a move about hundreds of millions of people dying so....

 

[Awesome Possum]

I think the second wave of aliens were always on their way here no matter what, not that it had anything to do with hearing radio signals. I bet the first wave was meant to establish a beachhead and the second wave is for colonization, hence the much larger ship.

Yeah, if you're moving your entire civilization. You probably want to avoid getting everyone wiped out at once. They sent a scout ship in 1947 that crashed at Roswell, then the invasion force in 1996. It was probably meant to wipe out the humans and start preparing the planet so the others could move in. I assume they would send a message to let them know it was safe. But that didn't happen, so now the rest are coming to take the planet from us.

This movie looks exactly like what I wanted when I was 11 and the original came out. I can't wait to see this.

I was 12, the hours my buddies and me spend discussing a possible sequel. It always ended in: humanity adopts their tech to some degree, starts rebuilding, then a few years later they come back bigger and badder. Sure, not the most creative idea... I'm high-fiving myself back through time right now.

My friends and I had completely mapped out the sequel. We were hoping for a ground war with alien tanks and ground troops. Something like the Battle of Hoth but in the desert because we assumed that Area 51 had to show up again.

Even if this movie is awful, I think I'm going to love it.

Plus Jeff Goldblum is movie helper, if he shows up it is at least watchable. I completely bought him as the world's smartest cable repair man who could hack alien software using a Mac.

 

[Taylirious]

I liked it! This is something that I didn't want a sequel for but glad there is based on the trailer.

 

[Trekker4747]

Maybe it's just one big helium balloon?

Helium balloons still displace mass.

Been crushed by the column of air while standing under any blimps lately?

Are blimps the size of cities?

I don't "agree" with notion that the cities and such under the destroyers would have been crushed, it would seem there'd be some great effect from this huge mass having to push air out of the way in order for it to move. And if it isn't "weightless" in air like a helium balloon then it has to do something to counter gravity and this means pushing against the ground with some kind of force. Planes and helicopters have to do this to stay in the air. It doesn't effect anyone standing under these things because the mass and weight-distribution of even the largest planes and helicopters in flight is fairly small. You can stand under a hovering helicopter and feel no pressure on you as the helicopter pushes off the ground to stay hovering. But a city-sized space-ship that's 15-miles in diameter and hundreds of feet thick is going to be pushing a *lot* more to keep its mass hovering, seems to me this could have some impact on the objects below it.

Unless, as you say, it "works like a balloon" and doesn't need to push off anything to stay in the air. It's simply able to effect its density to make it "lighter than air" enough to float. But it still has to displace mass to move and considering its size that'd have some serious effects. So hovering may not "crush a city" but simply moving could cause massive, powerful, torrrents of wind to blow down into the city from in front of the ship as it pushes air out of the way and then cause a enormous suction effect behind it as air rushes in to fill the gap of where the ship was.

 

[sojourner]

I didn't say "it works like a balloon", I suggested it was a balloon. You know, as a joke.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm not aware of any explanation as to exactly how the alien ships move. They don't necessarily have to be pushing against anything. It's alien technology, it works however the writers want.

And besides, if the filmmakers go for total realism, they wouldn't have much of a film left, would they? Wind resistance wasn't dealt with in, for example, V. Some things you just have to ignore if you want something that puts butts in seats, i.e. huge motherfucking spaceships blasting the hell out of Earth.

As for David's laptop hacking the mothership in the original film: Isn't most of Earth's technology actually derived from the original 1947 scout ship? So if all of our tech is based on the alien ship anyway, it doesn't seem that much of a stretch that we should be able to hack them back. Especially somebody as smart as David.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I don't want an accurate Independence Day movie. I want explosions and Jeff Goldblum being the smartest cable repairman in the world who kicks ass with his brain. This is a sequel to a movie where a character motivated by his alien abduction experience saves pretty much all the surviving cast by symbolically doing to the aliens what they did to him.

 

[Kemaiku]

Or they had the technology to generate an effect that made the ships move within a gravity well without effort, only having to deal with the friction of air. No pushing down or up, just a weightlessness generated by alien technology.

I mean comparing an advanced starship to a helicopter, fuck sake.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I mean comparing an advanced starship to a helicopter, fuck sake.

Hot diggity!

Why even bother with a computer virus? It was probably going to fall into a vortex ring state, or crash after walnut shell particles clogged up the transmission.

 

[Timby]

Yes, it did. "The Force runs strong in my family..."

It was re-recorded and had new dialogue.

 

[sojourner]

Yes, it did. "The Force runs strong in my family..."

It was re-recorded and had new dialogue.

Nit, picked.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Yes, it did. "The Force runs strong in my family..."

It was re-recorded and had new dialogue.

Nit, picked.

Yeah, wow. There wasn't even any new dialogue anyway (and the re-recording was just to make the old recording sound better).

Trailer looked interesting. Hopefully it'll be a fun blockbuster.