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Inadvertant inaccuracy

Flying Spaghetti Monster

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In Star Trek Into Darkness, there are scenes that take place at Jupiter... and of course the establishing shots show the prominent Great Red Spot.

Of course, that spot will probably be gone by the 23rd century.
 
Or unless the 'red spot' is undergoing a phenomena whereby it contracts and expands through different periods of time and depending on what is happening on the planet's surface. It will be interesting to learn more and hopefully reveal exactly what is happening. It's only a couple of years until NASA's Juno spacecraft reaches Jupiter.
 
By the time of Into Darkness, scientists have managed to render Red Matter inert, and dumped any remaining samples into Jupiter, restoring the Red Spot.
 
Or unless the 'red spot' is undergoing a phenomena whereby it contracts and expands through different periods of time and depending on what is happening on the planet's surface.

That's crazy talk!

Everyone knows about the spot on Jupiter and would've been asking where it was at if they hadn't shown it.
 
Or unless the 'red spot' is undergoing a phenomena whereby it contracts and expands through different periods of time and depending on what is happening on the planet's surface.

That's crazy talk!

Everyone knows about the spot on Jupiter and would've been asking where it was at if they hadn't shown it.

Huh? I don't know if we aren't debating the same point here.

The spot is shrinking today. Between now and the 23rd century it will rebound to where it is a large spot again by the time STiD takes place. I am simply offering a plausible explanation to Flying Spaghetti Monster's OP.
 
Or unless the 'red spot' is undergoing a phenomena whereby it contracts and expands through different periods of time and depending on what is happening on the planet's surface.

That's crazy talk!

Everyone knows about the spot on Jupiter and would've been asking where it was at if they hadn't shown it.

Huh? I don't know if we aren't debating the same point here.

The spot is shrinking today. Between now and the 23rd century it will rebound to where it is a large spot again by the time STiD takes place. I am simply offering a plausible explanation to Flying Spaghetti Monster's OP.

I know. :techman:
 
Or, the Red Spot was such a prominate feature in old Earth lore, that Federation sciences decided to use Jupiter to test weather control systems by recreating the old Red Spot for all to see throughout the centuries.
 
For what it's worth, this isn't the first Trek, "oops," on the red spot. Watch the early-seasons opening credits for TNG. Twelve seconds in, we pass Jupiter, with its great red spot.

I remember reading somewhere a while back that Jupiter's red spot could go away, or at least shrink to being very small, as early as a generation from now. That said, who's to say the spot we see in TNG or STID is the same storm we see, today?
 
For what it's worth, this isn't the first Trek, "oops," on the red spot. Watch the early-seasons opening credits for TNG. Twelve seconds in, we pass Jupiter, with its great red spot.

I remember reading somewhere a while back that Jupiter's red spot could go away, or at least shrink to being very small, as early as a generation from now. That said, who's to say the spot we see in TNG or STID is the same storm we see, today?

That's a very good point. For all we know, this could be a recurring phenomenon.
 
^I need a drink. Is it too early?

Never too early!

Good man. I bought a couple of bottles of this and have yet to crack one:

http://www.dukespirits.com/product/kentucky-straight-bourbon/

I think that would be a good place to start - and seeing you're in Kentucky, you may have some rather fine comments to say about it.

The company is in California. Are they distilling it somewhere in Kentucky or in CA? I mean, it doesn't technically matter, as long as it's at least 51% corn (and meets a few other requirements), any whisky made anywhere can be called, bourbon. But the idea that John Wayne would drink bourbon distilled in California? I dunno. That's a little Hollywood for the Duke, isn't it? And what about that good Kentucky limestone-infused water? No substitute for that. ;)

Save the bottles. Duke University is suing the distillery over the use of the name "Duke" on the bottle. Probably can't win it, but if they do, those bottles will be collectors items.
 
While we're on the subject...

"This place is even better than Leningrad!" -- Pavel Chekov, 277 years after Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg.
 
While we're on the subject...

"This place is even better than Leningrad!" -- Pavel Chekov, 277 years after Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg.

It's tough when real life doesn't cooperate with fiction. Leningrad is mentioned in TVH, too.

Maybe in ST03, they'll have Chekov mention, "Putingrad." You know, try to get ahead of the game. :)
 
While we're on the subject...

"This place is even better than Leningrad!" -- Pavel Chekov, 277 years after Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg.

It's tough when real life doesn't cooperate with fiction. Leningrad is mentioned in TVH, too.

Maybe in ST03, they'll have Chekov mention, "Putingrad." You know, try to get ahead of the game. :)

For even more historical accuracy, they could name it Putingrab, as in, "Putingrab everything I own" :(
 
While we're on the subject...

"This place is even better than Leningrad!" -- Pavel Chekov, 277 years after Leningrad changed its name back to Saint Petersburg.

It's tough when real life doesn't cooperate with fiction. Leningrad is mentioned in TVH, too.

What are you guys on about? Saint Petersburg was changed back to Leningrad when Russia was swept by that puzzling wave of anti-religious, pro-communist nostalgia in the 22nd century, I think it was. It didn't last long of course but was rather unfortunate none-the-less. As you recall, the Royal family had only just been recreated from frozen DNA and placed back on the throne when three weeks later they were dragged into the streets and shot all over again.
 
I think Chekov mentioned Leningrad in the series, too (something about a little old lady in Leningrad?).

That's something I kind of wish the later Treks had maintained from the original series: avoiding references to 'current' Earth, avoiding the issue of which social/political systems 'won out'.
 
There was no way to assume that Leningrad would ever change its name back to St. Petersburg until the Soviet Union fell. And in Star Trek, that was assumed to never happen. They would just make peace at some point and be part of the United Earth government by the time of the founding of the Federation. If fact it didn't happen until the year Star Trek VI came out.
 
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