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In Star Trek, Every Main Character Is A Celebrity

In "Crossover" Kira and Bashir are displaced to the Mirror universe, and alternate Kira explains to "our" Kira the current state of things, how things came to be that way, and that it was because of the James Kirk and Spock of the main universe. "Our" Kira has no idea who those guys are.
 
But then Kira goes and asks Bashir if he'd ever heard of Kirk, which he totally did.

I maintain that Kira probably had a mediocre education at best. She was, however, innately intelligent and was likely self-educating herself ever since the occupation ended. She probably had gaping knowledge gaps as a result.
 
You have to look at Star Trek like "future historical fiction" for the most part.

It's not like they're going to tell stories about mediocre ships and crews (oh...sorry...LD does I guess). They're telling stories about the big damn heroes who shaped the history of the Federation.
 
In "Crossover" Kira and Bashir are displaced to the Mirror universe, and alternate Kira explains to "our" Kira the current state of things, how things came to be that way, and that it was because of the James Kirk and Spock of the main universe. "Our" Kira has no idea who those guys are.
Why would a Bajoran freedom fighter know anything about Federation history?
 
One aspect could be, to stick with the title of the OP, a measure of hero worship. The Federation and Starfleet could be viewed as "liberators" by some of the Bajorans, resulting in a measure of cultural obsession and research allowing them to become more familiar quickly.
 
Why on earth would Kira want or need to know about Kirk and Spock?? She would not give a flying fuck, nor would it be considered essential for her job.
 
Not want or need. We pick up all kinds of trivia that is not germane to our tasks at hand from various places. That's why almost anybody can answer some questions right on Jeopardy without having combed encyclopedias and the Internet for a cram session.
 
Travesty Badweather or something like that.

Travis Mayweather actually... but that's allright, even I barely remember him.
Had the show progressed to full 7 years and had the Earth/Romulan war, its possible he would have become more prominent.
 
Why on earth would Kira want or need to know about Kirk and Spock?? She would not give a flying fuck, nor would it be considered essential for her job.
As a fount of useless information you'll be surprised at what you pick up on and retain, even at random. Not all knowledge is about need. Simple curiosity may also exist.
Not want or need. We pick up all kinds of trivia that is not germane to our tasks at hand from various places. That's why almost anybody can answer some questions right on Jeopardy without having combed encyclopedias and the Internet for a cram session.
Yup. Even just by talking to people I learn things. Human interaction is strange.
 
I just watched Ties of Blood and Water, and Ghemor outright says that Kira is a "public figure" because she's first officer of one of the most famous space stations in the quadrant.

Obviously he's talking from a Cardassian perspective - I'm not surprised she would have been a notorious figure for them.
 
Not want or need. We pick up all kinds of trivia that is not germane to our tasks at hand from various places. That's why almost anybody can answer some questions right on Jeopardy without having combed encyclopedias and the Internet for a cram session.
I'm sure Kira could do Bajoran and even some Cardassian Jeopardy questions, but why would she want to know trivia about missions of one exploration ship from a century in the past of the people she didn't even want involved with her people in the first place?
 
For the same reason you'd "want" to have a really annoying song in your head all day; you don't. It just wound up there. Kira doesn't subscribe to the Sherlock Holmes-ism of promptly forgetting unnecessary-to-my-life-and-work trivia completely to make room for needed info.

goodreads.com/work/quotes/26509290-sherlock-holmes-the-ultimate-collection

Sherlock Holmes and Watson said:
“His ignorance was as remarkable as his knowledge. Of contemporary literature, philosophy and politics he appeared to know next to nothing. Upon my quoting Thomas Carlyle, he inquired in the naivest way who he might be and what he had done. My surprise reached a climax, however, when I found incidentally that he was ignorant of the Copernican Theory and of the composition of the Solar System. That any civilized human being in this nineteenth century should not be aware that the earth travelled round the sun appeared to be to me such an extraordinary fact that I could hardly realize it. "You appear to be astonished," he said, smiling at my expression of surprise. "Now that I do know it I shall do my best to forget it." "To forget it!" "You see," he explained, "I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it. Now the skillful workman is very careful indeed as to what he takes into his brain-attic. He will have nothing but the tools which may help him in doing his work, but of these he has a large assortment, and all in the most perfect order. It is a mistake to think that that little room has elastic walls and can distend to any extent. Depend upon it there comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones." "But the Solar System!" I protested. "What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; "you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work.”
 
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