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In Disney Star Wars Canon, Leia was frozen too

Obi-Wan and R2 were at that point absent from Cloud City. Vader had the idea to freeze Luke in the first place and test it on Solo .There's no other overlap of personnel. Lando's concern was that the facility at Cloud City wasn't designed for the process. I think it works. :shrug:

For me it is on an instance by instance basis. I've not seen the episodes in question.
 
OK, some context to the above image for those who haven't read the comics:

The regular SW comic series has now moved into the post-TESB era. Our heroes have returned to Cloud City: Luke to see if he can find his lost lightsaber, Lando to spring his buddy Lobot (who the Empire captured), Leia to return to the carbon freezing chamber and learn how to defrost Han once they find him. She gets caught by a pair of stormtroopers, and into the vat she goes. "I love this part," one of them says as she freezes. "Makes handling Rebel scum so much easier. Don't have to feed them, don't have to worry about them escaping."

The story's not done yet, and when Leia inevitably gets saved & thawed she'll no doubt have a nasty case of hibernation sickness/temporary blindness. Try rewatching her attempted rescue of Han in ROTJ with that in mind.

See, that kinda makes sense. On the other hand, now it’s there...if someone is nuts enough to try to go through the whole ‘canon’ in chronological order, there’s less tension in ‘what’s going to happen to Han? Can he be thawed? What’s gonna happen to him?’

On the record though, Leia defrosting Han is possibly my favourite scene in all of Star Wars.
 
Obi-Wan and R2 were at that point absent from Cloud City. Vader had the idea to freeze Luke in the first place and test it on Solo. There's no other overlap of personnel. Lando's concern was that the facility at Cloud City wasn't designed for the process. I think it works. :shrug:
Same here, as Vader remarks that the facility is "crude" but that it would be sufficient for freezing Solo and Skywalker.

Even 3PO notes that he should be fine if he survived the freezing process. Given 3PO's panic over, well, everything, I would state that the process wasn't that unknown.
 
What happened to this franchise?
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So she's the latest princess from Frozen? :guffaw:

The robes look a little funny too... but, dang, those smooth muscular legs... :drool:

Is anyone not carbonated in the comics? When does the diminishing return thing kick in? Especially as they all get thawed to do the humpty dance again anyway?

How will anyone but the hardest core fans know all the details? Can the more mainstream movies tell of the other canonical details in a less non-abrupt way? Okay that's a tangent, but having Finn or whoever refer to it... sorta like Luke in TLJ using Force Projection. It had happened in a comic beforehand but it comes out of the blue in the movie, thus confusing any number of viewers. How can one add the narrative in a way that doesn't feel cheesy? is such foreshadowing in a script possible? (Like when James Bond gets a gadget with discussion on what it does, is used as described, but a few minutes later has another function out of the blue that Bond was never told about. Like the wristwatch-turned-rope cutting saw.) Or the opposite, like when James Bond gets a gadget with discussion on what it does, but never gets used... (like that will ever happen! :D ))
 
Why does there need to be one canon?

There is one canon which includes the original movies and the novels.
There is one canon which includes all the movies and TV shows.

A new canon created by the current property holders doesn't invalidate other canons, it just creates a divergent canon.
 
Yup. And that's why I'm always amused by this idea that "IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFOR!!!!!!!!!!!! (echoes). Except, that's an assumption not what is presented in the text.

To me, it kinda kills the drama of original scene though. Where it is presented as something that isn't normal, or else Boba Fett wouldn't be worried about him surviving. And C-3PO's line about it being a great idea if he survives really doesn't make sense.

Kinda like all the pre-TOS cloaking devices kill some of the drama from "Balance of Terror".
 
To me, it kinda kills the drama of original scene though. Where it is presented as something that isn't normal, or else Boba Fett wouldn't be worried about him surviving. And C-3PO's line about it being a great idea if he survives really doesn't make sense.

Kinda like all the pre-TOS cloaking devices kill some of the drama from "Balance of Terror".
Definitely a mileage will vary type situation. The drama doesn't come from "it's never been done before" but from the character reaction and their personal horror and unfamiliarity.

And again, it isn't normal in terms of this particular facility. Fett worrying about him surviving makes sense in light of Vader's comment that "This facility is crude."

Same thing with TOS. If I am engaged with the characters then I'm less worried about the technical aspects of whether its been done before.
 
Its not like the submarine had just been invented for the submarine verses destroyer situation that "Balance of Terror" is based on. It had been around, in one form or another, for over a century by World War II, and a major thorn in the Allies side in the previous world war only of few decades earlier.

So a cloaking device does not need to be new. The only thing there that needs to be maintained is the lack of official contact with the Romulans and that in general, Starfleet personal have no idea what a Romulan looks like.


For Star Wars, it makes sending Leia in even more important. She's not only got the skills, but also the experience to be able to help Han Solo.
 
This kind of reminds me of an old Star Wars comic where they hide in the Falcon's smuggling compartment which the stormtroopers find but they're not there! It turns out there's a hidden compartment under the hidden compartment lol. I never read enough to see if there's yet another hidden compartment under that one...
 
After smuggling for a while, you have to get more clever than the inspection teams. And if they have seen a lot of smuggling ships, they will know to look for hidden compartments. Finding one might prove the captain is a smuggler, but doesn't have any contraband (this time) thus can't be impounded. But to have another compartment under the first compartment (or putting in false floor in you existing compartment, making it less usable for large items) would throw most inspectors off. Especially if the route you are on is normally for smuggling smaller items in bulk (spice) that could fit in a smaller hidden compartment, while you can smuggle people (or yourself even) in the compartments under that one.
 
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