Also--though the episode doesn't get into it--if we want to get all Freudian, part of Charlie's infatuation with Janice may have had to do with longing for a mommy figure or somesuch....
In Charlie X Why Didn't Charlie Like Tina?
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I think Charlie bonded, if that's the right word, to Janice before Tina showed up and became Charlie's "Image of perfect womanhood" that Tina couldn't properly compare.
I just wonder some things about Tina.
She's only 17? and she's on a starship? So much for no kids in space, but she's there as a crewperson not a passenger, but how at that age could she?
And she's a Yeoman third class. Yeoman is a job description, not a rank, although maybe that's different in the future, but that makes Tina like a entry level secretary? Maybe she handles filing? I would think future tech would make that unnecessary to have a person do that. How many Yeomen would they need to have, Capt. Kirk is the only captain, does Mr. Spock or Dr. McCoy have their own?
I just wonder some things about Tina.
She's only 17? and she's on a starship? So much for no kids in space, but she's there as a crewperson not a passenger, but how at that age could she?
And she's a Yeoman third class. Yeoman is a job description, not a rank, although maybe that's different in the future, but that makes Tina like a entry level secretary? Maybe she handles filing? I would think future tech would make that unnecessary to have a person do that. How many Yeomen would they need to have, Capt. Kirk is the only captain, does Mr. Spock or Dr. McCoy have their own?
Because she's enlisted, not an officer. So she'd only need a few months of basic training rather than years in the Academy.
Yes.
In real life, enlistment in the US army or navy is allowed at age 17 (with parental consent). Since Starfleet is basically the navy in space, I imagine it would be quite similar.
Kor
It's a valid question. With only 400 crew and a largely automated ship, how many yeomen would they need? I think generally it as an easy way of presenting us with a variety of air-headed decorative women. I can see that department heads might have their own yeomen but the endless trail of women with PADDs seems very unlikely. It's possible that the succession of yeoman we see after Rand leaves are all Kirk's yeomen. One assumes that they all leave fairly quickly after he uses the old transporter double excuse to cop a feel.
Nah. Only certain jobs would require full rotation of shifts. The Captain's yeoman would be expected to work when the captain is on duty. They do admin. Similarly, the ship has one geology officer. You don't need 24/7 geology cover.
Having said that, who else serves phaser hot coffee to the bridge crew during a crisis? So maybe...
All senior officer department heads probably have at least one yeoman assigned to help with administrative tasks related to the job. Rather than think of them as mere file clerks, they're probably closer to office managers with a variety of duties.
I didn't have any socialization. I was a isolated nerd when I was a teen. Hardly anyone liked me. I didn't have superpowers but that wouldn't have made a difference.
Spockboy
I was an isolated nerd too, but that's hardly the same as growing up as the only human on the planet with only incorporeal aliens for company. Even lonely kids are exposed to socialization; the word doesn't mean just having friends and hanging out with people, but any exposure to the values and attitudes and expected behaviors of a society. If you watched TV, if you read books or listened to music, if your parents or teachers taught you things, then you were socialized. Even the taunts of schoolyard bullies are socialization, because they teach you what society expects and what it disapproves of. We're all shaped by the society we're part of, often in ways we don't even realize. But Charlie had none of that.
He had a society of giant heads. I'm sure there was a socialization of thought. I had my star trek and star wars toys. Which ever is better is up to interpretation. All I am saying is his hormones were over active and a nice pretty girl like Tina should have fit the bill.
As myself and others have speculated, there were probably emotional and psychological reasons why Tina wouldn't do. It wasn't just about hormones and who looked better.
I wouldn't mind playing checkers on her beehive, if you know what I mean.
LOL!
Yeoman: Help! Help! Oh, Dr. McCoy, help, the Captain is groping me!
McCoy: Jim, what are you doing?
Kirk: I'm not Jim. I'm my evil, uncontrolled passion self due to a transporter malfunction.
McCoy: Jim, this is the fifth "transporter malfunction" this month. Go back to your quarters.
Kirk: I'm not Jim! I'm eeeeeevil! The transporter did it! Now go get me some brandy, damn it!
McCoy: Jim, the transporter is fine. Scotty just checked it this morning. Security?
Redshirts leading Kirk away...
Kirk: No, it's not me, it's my evil twin! I'm not responsible! I'm the Captain! Noooooooooo!
Yeoman, buttoning up her top while Spock leers: "Well, he IS the Captain..."
I was hoping IDW was going to do a remake in their comic where Rand totally hands eeeevil Kirk his a**. Sigh.
That just reminded me of this exchange between Admiral kirk and Yeoman Rand from DC's first Trek Series Issue 33
Yes, but not a human society. That's my point, and I don't know why I'm having so much trouble getting it across. It's very simple: Charlie's upbringing was very different from ours, so we can't assume we can use our own experiences as an analogy for his.
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