In Charlie X Why Didn't Charlie Like Tina?

[urbandefault]

I never found Rand attractive either, except for those early promo pics with the heavy makeup. Then, still not so much.

Her semi-lookalike Mary Lynn Rajskub is cuter, in a "don't look at me, dumbass" kinda way.

 

[scotpens]

Heck, I'm as hetero as they come and I don't find Rand the least bit attractive. Tastes differ.

I never found Grace Lee Whitney that appealing either, even when she wasn't wearing that silly wig. I got the impression we were supposed to think she was beautiful because we were told she was beautiful.

 

[Melakon]

I was 15 when I first saw her, and that was in "Miri". She was too old for me, then she had the "Look at my legs with these big, ugly disgusting looking sores on them" line. So it never quite worked for me. Whitney was a few months older than my oldest sister.

 

[PCz911]

^Heck, I'm as hetero as they come and I don't find Rand the least bit attractive. Tastes differ.

Agree.

I suppose there must have been a survey on this site to force rank the attractiveness of the actors (both male and female).

 

[Pauln6]

When I was at School, we had a running joke about 60s and 70s tv shows using that awful softglow effect on actresses to try and make them attractive. We wondered if they had a device attached to their waists with a big chunk of blurry perspex, like a modern selfie stick to shove in front of Kirk's face.

For my part, I really liked the fact that a show like Star Trek was not obsessed with featuring the kind of plastic actresses that you often see on tv shows these days. I would rather the characters look ordinary but act exceptional. This is where 60s female characters like Rand fall down. When she's captured by children she has to sit there like a sack of coal and wait to be rescued instead of using her brain. I think one of the reasons why Noel is so popular is because she was allowed to be a protagonist and not just window dressing.

Enterprise had a very pretty cast but it isn't considered the best of the Trek shows.

I also think the main reason Mulgrew gave Ryan a hard time when she debuted on Voyager was because she felt that Lien was being replaced by a 'plastic' actress whose job it was to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Seven also carried a lot of story potential but then so did Kes. Perhaps the problem with Kes was that her potential lay in developing the character in an arc and Voyager only started to warm to that concept after she had left.

I think often too many male fans of sci fi are prepared to objectify the female characters. My favourite TOS male is McCoy and that has nothing to do with whether he is better looking than Chekov.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Enterprise had a very pretty cast but it isn't considered the best of the Trek shows.

How is the cast of Enterprise any more or less pretty than the casts of the other shows? ( or any show on TV, for that matter?)

 

[Pauln6]

Enterprise had a very pretty cast but it isn't considered the best of the Trek shows.

How is the cast of Enterprise any more or less pretty than the casts of the other shows? ( or any show on TV, for that matter?)

It had Anthony Montgomery...

 

[Nerys Myk]

Enterprise had a very pretty cast but it isn't considered the best of the Trek shows.

How is the cast of Enterprise any more or less pretty than the casts of the other shows? ( or any show on TV, for that matter?)

It had Anthony Montgomery...

He's alright, but he's no young Jonathan Frakes.

 

[Melakon]

How is the cast of Enterprise any more or less pretty than the casts of the other shows? ( or any show on TV, for that matter?)

It had Anthony Montgomery...

He's alright, but he's no young Jonathan Frakes.

But when he grows his beard out, it will make all the difference.

 

[Kirk1980]

I always thought it was more him being annoyed that he was being fobbed off on someone else and getting mad that he wasn't being taken seriously. Then it was just a case of Tina being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[MANT!]

Always thought Tina was MUCH nicer looking than Janice..
maybe I'm in a minority but hey I always thought the following lady was amongst the best ever in TOS..

Standing..

 

[Poltargyst]

One of the points of the story is Charlie's impatience. He doesn't want to realize that he's still just a kid himself. He doesn't want to take the time to go through what people go through to grow up. He wants what he wants and he wants it NOW. He wants to be an adult NOW without doing the work and earning the priviledges that come with being an adult. He just declared himself to be an adult. Therefore, he considered Rand to be on the level that he perceived himself to be. Tina was just a kid not worth his time. Beneath him.

 

[urbandefault]

One of the points of the story is Charlie's impatience. He doesn't want to realize that he's still just a kid himself. He doesn't want to take the time to go through what people go through to grow up. He wants what he wants and he wants it NOW. He wants to be an adult NOW without doing the work and earning the priviledges that come with being an adult. He just declared himself to be an adult. Therefore, he considered Rand to be on the level that he perceived himself to be. Tina was just a kid not worth his time. Beneath him.

In other words, he's a typical teenager. Except for the magical powers and stuff.

 

[Christopher]

In other words, he's a typical teenager. Except for the magical powers and stuff.

You've just summed up the entire premise of the episode.

 

[IrishNero]

How is the cast of Enterprise any more or less pretty than the casts of the other shows? ( or any show on TV, for that matter?)

It had Anthony Montgomery...

He's alright, but he's no young Jonathan Frakes.

Plus, Frakes had two chins.

 

[johnnybear]

No, Mant! Tina was okay but Janice was a real sexy woman!
JB

 

[Pauln6]

So there were go. To summarise, it's different strokes for different folks. Charlie liked Janice because he liked Janice. If Tina wants to get noticed, she needs seriously bigger hair.

 

[cgervasi]

I always thought it was more him being annoyed that he was being fobbed off on someone else and getting mad that he wasn't being taken seriously. Then it was just a case of Tina being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I thought it was odd anyone would expect his crush could simply be re-directed to someone else, as if you could just substitute anyone on two legs with a set of breasts and it would be the same.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I always thought it was more him being annoyed that he was being fobbed off on someone else and getting mad that he wasn't being taken seriously. Then it was just a case of Tina being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I thought it was odd anyone would expect his crush could simply be re-directed to someone else, as if you could just substitute anyone on two legs with a set of breasts and it would be the same.

I don't know. When I was 17 and if someone shoved a 20 year old blonde in front of me with a "set of breasts" to get me away from a crush with a older woman I probably would have jumped at the chance.


Of course I never had a crush on a older lady in my teens and no one ever a nice looking 20 year old blonde in front of either.

 

[Christopher]

^But you didn't have a total lack of socialization experience and superpowers that had accustomed you to instant gratification. Charlie may have had typical teenage urges, but he was nowhere near typical in other ways. So we can't really compare him to ourselves. We've all had to learn to deal with not getting instant gratification of our every whim. We may not have liked it, but we've all had to get used to it. Charlie, though, had never experienced it before. And that's a pretty profound difference.