In A Mirror, Darkly

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  1. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You realize they did that in the original? Anti-matter drives starships, it also obliterates the universe if it touches matter. Lithium and dilithium are also the same thing.
     
  2. BillJ

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    Roddenberry was also an adulter, drug user and stole credit from others for their work.
     
  3. Ithekro

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    That would probably fall in line with some Greek, Roman, and Norse gods. Perhaps others as well, but my theology studies are limited.
     
  4. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Walrus Premium Member

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    Can you give an example that better illustrates what you mean?
    Star Trek uses Warp Drive to describe the propulsion system. Warp factors to describe the speed and light year to describe the distance. Are there times when these aren't used?
    Science is always evolving and that includes terminology. For the most part Trek tries to use current terms for celestial objects. They also just make stuff up, like "Class M Planet". Terms used on the show also evolve, When the show started Vulcans were sometimes called "Vulcanians" and the planet was "Vulcanis". Both terms were dropped in favor of Vulcan. Not sure if that's the sort of thing you're referring to or not.
     
  5. WARLOCK1965

    WARLOCK1965 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    In the use of Vulcan name it deals with the people ; planet ; and in some cases been the solar system name too. Also Vulcan name has been used to describe one behavior in though and actions. As to a Class M Planet the M stands for Mother as in Mother Earth in this mother has the meaning of life giver as any mother of children or offspring
     
  6. WARLOCK1965

    WARLOCK1965 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Some people say the same thing about many of the famous people of the past and people in the future will do the same thing to others it's the destroyer in all of us but the famous people that are dead cannot defend theirselves and as time goes by it becomes easier to believe in the worst of people and forget any good they have done
     
  7. Nerys Myk

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    That doesn't answer my questions. I'm asking for examples from the show of what you called "war zone of the mind" and "the same science being used in a different directions in the same story"

    I know how Vulcan is used in Star Trek. I was talking about how the terms have evolved over the course of the show.

    The term "Class M" has nothing to do with "mother". Originally it meant "Earth-Mars" conditions. Later it was retconned to being derived from the"Minshara Class"
     
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  8. BillJ

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    Roddenberry was in a relationship with Majel Barrett while married to his first wife. Barrett herself admitted Roddenberry cheated on her. Adulterer? Check.

    Roddenberry himself admitted to using drugs. The conditions he fought at the end of life were idicative of a drug user. Drug user? Check.

    Roddenberry wrote nonsensical lyrics to the TOS end music composed by Alexander Courage, so he could collect half of any royalties derived from the work. Stealing credit for others work? Check.

    All-in-all, Roddenberry was a competent TV producer who only had one idea that really resonated with audiences, but an incredibly poor human being.
     
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  9. thewanderingjack

    thewanderingjack Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    So has a Gorn Borg been discussed? Cuz that came to mind and like WHOA!!!
     
  10. Voth commando1

    Voth commando1 Commodore Commodore

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    The Borg have been willing to assimilate non-humanoids and if the Gorn interested them enough they would assimilate them and they would be quite a threat.
     
  11. thewanderingjack

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    My point exactly! It'd be pretty awesome as an enemy... how about a cube of Gorn Borgs... AAAHH!!!
     
  12. Voth commando1

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    Well one thing-the Gorn are reptiles so they presumably lay eggs or something similar. How would the Borg assimilate Gorn hatchlings?
     
  13. thewanderingjack

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    I don't see what the issue is... hatchlings=hatched. not much dierent than "born." Even eggs... moreover, hey could ust assimilate adults... assuming they can assimilate the Gorn, as we're assuming super density, maybe the Gorn are immune to nano probe infection. GORN VS BORG WHO WILL SURVIVE!?!?!
     
  14. Voth commando1

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    The Gorn aren't species 8472 or any sort of God being. They could probably be assimilated. I imagine it might be marginally more difficult given they have scales but since when have slight biological advantages stopped the Borg?
     
  15. thewanderingjack

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    I never claimed they were. I just said maybe the super density of the Gorn being assumed here could pose a reasonable defense, similar to how Phlox's advanced immune system helped him for a while.

    Though it is said that nothing SF is aware of at the time (which would include the Gorn) can resist the actual assimilation tubules, so it would have to be a resistance to the nano-probes themselves (again, based on the super density assumed in this thread).
     
  16. Tuskin38

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    Star Trek Online has assimilated Gorn, pretty intimidating.
     
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    Are You A Good Gorn, Or A Bad Gorn?
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    Give Me The Ruby Sslippersss, And Your Death Shall Be Mersssciful, And Quick!
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    So . . . Bad?
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  18. Athena28

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    Just watched the first half. (I've never seen the last 6 eps. of Enterprise). Liking a lot about it. Esp. the theme, Phlox and the way they're incorporating the TOS ep. Seems that Malcolm is playing the Julian Bashir mirror role.
     
  19. WARLOCK1965

    WARLOCK1965 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Malcolm was playing the Sulu role as head of security
     
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  20. Martok91189

    Martok91189 Ensign Red Shirt

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    I really like this two parter. I loved how the USS Defiant phased into the mirror universe