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Improve Generations?

Too happy, if you ask me. One of the major themes of this movie is that you have to learn to live with your pain. Soran wants to sacrifice millions of people just because his wife died. Data can't handle emotions. Picard needs to cope with his brother's and nephew's death. And they are losing the Enterprise. But in the end, life goes on, despite all the set backs. And even the most perfect dream world can't help you.

When Kirk died saving millions, he was happier than when he was in the fake dreamworld created by the Nexus.

That's the entire point of this movie. A reset button would make it pointless.
 
O.k, first of all the nexus should have had an alien of some type(telepathic?) at the other end of it pulling some strings.

Why? How would that serve to help the plot? There were tons of spacial anomalies the Enterprise-D encountered in TNG without some alien involvement, and they worked fine.
 
CRA's ending is far too happy-reset-button for me. It's what Voyager would do.

It would have made the movie an incredibly pointless two hours. "Stuff happens, but then they undo it all".

I prefer a universe with consequences - even if those consequenses are a little hit-and-miss.
 
CRA's ending is far too happy-reset-button for me. It's what Voyager would do.

Plus the fact that "All Good Things..." was a reset button. So they'd have had a reset button for the series finale, and another reset button for the new movie. Doesn't work.
 
Now, where did I put that reworked ending....?

Ah, here it is:

The movie is unchanged up until the point where Kirk and Picard leave the Nexus and confront Soran. At which point, they ultimately fail to stop the mad El-Aurian, the missile still goes off and they wind up right back in the Nexus.

“Well,” Kirk remarked, “that didn’t work.”

“We’re picking the wrong time period,” Picard surmised, “but I can’t just throw him in the brig without some justification.”

“Wait a minute,” Kirk said, “didn’t you say he was on the Enterprise-B?”

“Yes, when it encountered the Nexus, and you were…”

Kirk ignored the last bit, “Captain, go back to whatever point you want before this mess started. I’ve got an idea that just might fix everything.”

Picard paused, then said, “I hope you know what you’re doing.”

“So do I.”

The two men shook hands. “Good luck, Captain,” Picard said.

“You, too, Captain.”

The screen goes white, as we leave the Nexus for…

Sickbay on the Enterprise-B. A frantic and bloodied Soran struggled with Chekov. “No! Don’t you see, I’ve got to get back!”

A hand clamped down on Soran’s shoulder and spun him around. He found himself staring into the intense eyes of Captain Kirk.

“Come with me,” Kirk said.

“Keptin?”

“Not now, Chekov,” as Kirk hurried the confused Soran out of the crowded sickbay.

The Enterprise-B is rocked violently by another discharge from the Nexus, as Kirk and Soran reach the main deflector control room.

“You understand what you have to do?” Kirk asked.

“Yes, Captain,” Soran said, still slightly frantic, but with a fresh determination. “Thank you.”

“Don’t mention it, now GO!”

Kirk watched from the doorway as Soran quickly made the adjustments to the defelctor.

“Cap’n,” Scotty said over the intercom, “we need that deflector pulse in one minute or we’re all dead!”

“Now you know how it feels,” Kirk said under his breath, then louder, “Almost ready, stand by!”

Soran finished the adjustments, then stepped back, and turned to face the forward bulkhead, his arms outstretched in anticipation.

“NOW, SCOTTY!” Kirk yelled as he sprinted down the corridor.

The graviton pulse lanced out from the Enterprise-B’s deflector dish, breaking the hold of the Nexus on the ship. As the ship pulls away, one last tendril reached out and took a ragged bite out of the secondary hull.

Scotty came lumbering around the corner to see Kirk looking out into gash in the hull, just beyond the environmental force field that stood between them and the hard vacuum of open space.

“Are ye all right, Cap’n?”

“I’m fine, Scotty.”

Scotty looked out into the void. “Was there anyone in there?”

“Yeah, one of the El-Aurians.”

“Poor soul.”

“He’ll be fine.”

Scott looked at his captain like he’d just grown a second head.

“I’ll explain later.”

Harriman and Chekov came running down the corridor.

“Captain Harriman,” Kirk said, “What do you say we get this ship back to Earth and these refugees some proper medical care? I’ve got a few choice words for the headquarters genius who decided to send this ship out with only half her systems installed…”

Flash forward seventy-eight years, the bridge of the Enterprise-D.

“Message coming in for you, Captain,” Worf reported. “Your brother, thanking you for your warning about the malfunctioning heating unit.”

“Thank you, Mr. Worf,” Picard said, suppressing a smile.

Counselor Troi gave him a look, sensing his emotional uptick. “Something you’d like to talk about, Captain?”

“Later, Counselor.”

“We should start getting ready,” Riker said, “Mr. Worf’s promotion ceremony is in just a couple hours.”

Picard heard the Klingon growl.

“Number One, perhaps we should rethink the scenario for Mr. Worf’s promotion. After all, it is his party.”

Worf let out a sigh of relief. “I will have an alternative prepared within the hour.”

“No hurry, Mr. Worf, and no need for theatrics if you don’t want them. If you want to go with a simple ceremony in Ten Forward, that will quite all right.”

“Thank you, Captain. I will make arrangements with Guinan.”

“Mr. Data, how long until we reach the Armagosa Array?”

“ETA two hours, fifteen minutes at our current speed.”

“Very good. You have the conn, Number One. I’ll be in my quarters, following up on that message from my brother.”

The Enterprise-D sails off, movie ends, everybody’s happy.

I like this but there would need to be an explanation about how Picard knows the time line changed.
 
Crash the ship into a city! It would have cost too much, but imagine a panicked Enterprise hailing a big metropolis on earth to evacuate...and then the saucer plows though an ultra built-up megacity like the STXI version of San Fransisco. Crash! Kaboom!
I had the idea that after the saucer has separated and Riker and co. are plummeting towards the planet, Kirk steers the warp core breaching Enterprise-D into the flight path of the missile that Soran has fired.

Love both. Get these two to the CG room; I'll be in Editing!
 
Too happy, if you ask me. One of the major themes of this movie is that you have to learn to live with your pain. Soran wants to sacrifice millions of people just because his wife died. Data can't handle emotions. Picard needs to cope with his brother's and nephew's death. And they are losing the Enterprise. But in the end, life goes on, despite all the set backs. And even the most perfect dream world can't help you.

When Kirk died saving millions, he was happier than when he was in the fake dreamworld created by the Nexus.

That's the entire point of this movie. A reset button would make it pointless.

You don't go to a Star Trek movie for a depressing lecture on death and destruction, nor to see major characters killed off in idiotic ways.

What my version does is clean up the mess created by the first two hours and declare a Mulligan.

To REALLY improve the thing would've required bringing in a couple of experienced screenwriters (not tv writers) and do a serious rewrite, along with telling Paramount to take their standard locked-in release date and shove it. Ya want a decent movie, you have to cook up a decent screenplay, but if all you want is something to throw in the theatres and get butts in the seats opening weekend, you'd do better to just run "All Good Things..." commercial-free and with THX sound. Probably piss off fewer people, too.
 
Now, where did I put that reworked ending....?

Ah, here it is:

The movie is unchanged up until the point where Kirk and Picard leave the Nexus and confront Soran. At which point, they ultimately fail to stop the mad El-Aurian, the missile still goes off and they wind up right back in the Nexus.

“Well,” Kirk remarked, “that didn’t work.”

“We’re picking the wrong time period,” Picard surmised, “but I can’t just throw him in the brig without some justification.”

“Wait a minute,” Kirk said, “didn’t you say he was on the Enterprise-B?”

“Yes, when it encountered the Nexus, and you were…”

Kirk ignored the last bit, “Captain, go back to whatever point you want before this mess started. I’ve got an idea that just might fix everything.”

Picard paused, then said, “I hope you know what you’re doing.”

“So do I.”

The two men shook hands. “Good luck, Captain,” Picard said.

“You, too, Captain.”

The screen goes white, as we leave the Nexus for…

Sickbay on the Enterprise-B. A frantic and bloodied Soran struggled with Chekov. “No! Don’t you see, I’ve got to get back!”

A hand clamped down on Soran’s shoulder and spun him around. He found himself staring into the intense eyes of Captain Kirk.

“Come with me,” Kirk said.

“Keptin?”

“Not now, Chekov,” as Kirk hurried the confused Soran out of the crowded sickbay.

The Enterprise-B is rocked violently by another discharge from the Nexus, as Kirk and Soran reach the main deflector control room.

“You understand what you have to do?” Kirk asked.

“Yes, Captain,” Soran said, still slightly frantic, but with a fresh determination. “Thank you.”

“Don’t mention it, now GO!”

Kirk watched from the doorway as Soran quickly made the adjustments to the defelctor.

“Cap’n,” Scotty said over the intercom, “we need that deflector pulse in one minute or we’re all dead!”

“Now you know how it feels,” Kirk said under his breath, then louder, “Almost ready, stand by!”

Soran finished the adjustments, then stepped back, and turned to face the forward bulkhead, his arms outstretched in anticipation.

“NOW, SCOTTY!” Kirk yelled as he sprinted down the corridor.

The graviton pulse lanced out from the Enterprise-B’s deflector dish, breaking the hold of the Nexus on the ship. As the ship pulls away, one last tendril reached out and took a ragged bite out of the secondary hull.

Scotty came lumbering around the corner to see Kirk looking out into gash in the hull, just beyond the environmental force field that stood between them and the hard vacuum of open space.

“Are ye all right, Cap’n?”

“I’m fine, Scotty.”

Scotty looked out into the void. “Was there anyone in there?”

“Yeah, one of the El-Aurians.”

“Poor soul.”

“He’ll be fine.”

Scott looked at his captain like he’d just grown a second head.

“I’ll explain later.”

Harriman and Chekov came running down the corridor.

“Captain Harriman,” Kirk said, “What do you say we get this ship back to Earth and these refugees some proper medical care? I’ve got a few choice words for the headquarters genius who decided to send this ship out with only half her systems installed…”

Flash forward seventy-eight years, the bridge of the Enterprise-D.

“Message coming in for you, Captain,” Worf reported. “Your brother, thanking you for your warning about the malfunctioning heating unit.”

“Thank you, Mr. Worf,” Picard said, suppressing a smile.

Counselor Troi gave him a look, sensing his emotional uptick. “Something you’d like to talk about, Captain?”

“Later, Counselor.”

“We should start getting ready,” Riker said, “Mr. Worf’s promotion ceremony is in just a couple hours.”

Picard heard the Klingon growl.

“Number One, perhaps we should rethink the scenario for Mr. Worf’s promotion. After all, it is his party.”

Worf let out a sigh of relief. “I will have an alternative prepared within the hour.”

“No hurry, Mr. Worf, and no need for theatrics if you don’t want them. If you want to go with a simple ceremony in Ten Forward, that will quite all right.”

“Thank you, Captain. I will make arrangements with Guinan.”

“Mr. Data, how long until we reach the Armagosa Array?”

“ETA two hours, fifteen minutes at our current speed.”

“Very good. You have the conn, Number One. I’ll be in my quarters, following up on that message from my brother.”

The Enterprise-D sails off, movie ends, everybody’s happy.
This definitely would have worked for me, and is far better than any idea I could have come up with for Generations.
:bolian:
It even would have allowed for a redesigned Enterprise-D for First Contact, if the producers wanted a new ship so badly for that movie, IMO.
 
I think they should have had the guts to make it a straight Next Generation movie.

Might have worked out better in hindsight.
 
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