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I'm Worried About T'Bonz (New Movie Spoiler)

I'm going to see Star Trek every night this week in an attempt to determine how to save T'Bonz from emotional anguish. I will explain Romulus back into existence!

Well, Romulus exists in the altered timeline. As for the old timeline, it appears to be gone (although the Star Empire will still exist).
 
Better hope Bonz doesn't read the MU novels...

Mirror Universe Romulus was destroyed too. In fact that happened first, before ST XI! It was the MU story "Homecoming" in Shards and Shadows
 
^ "Homecoming" has nothing to do with ST XI. It's a New Frontier story. Nero isn't in it. The similarity in ending, such as it is, would appear to be a coincidence.

In "Homecoming", it ends with Romulus being destroyed by a doomsday weapon. Ironically, it was a weapon that the MU Romulans had been hired to develop for the Klingon/Cardassian Alliance, who promptly decided to test it on Romulus itself. Praetor Hiren orders all surviving members of the Romulan Fleet to join Mac Calhoun and the Terran Rebellion. There is no time travel at all.
 
*grumble!* Both my favorite planets destroyed, one in each timeline.

Nobody better cross me for a while. :vulcan: :D

P.S. T'Bonz is half Romulan-half Vulcan, all attitude. Note the username.

I believe this explains the success of T'Bonz's team, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Clearly, the Steelers are composed of half Romulan-half Vulcans with superior strength and, now, attitude. We can therefore expect the Steelers to repeat in 2010. :)
 
^The "bad news" is already canon whether people writing the novels like it or not.

That's not how it works. If the novels can come up with something that's consistent with canon but interprets it in an unexpected way, they're free to do so.

What appeared on screen is canon. Any assumptions you or I make which extend from that, no matter how directly, are not. And in this case that includes the fate of Romulus in the original timeline.

That's the backbone of the Enterprise Relaunch's philosophy, really.....in TATV, we see Trip appear to die. It's canon that a holoprogram in the 24th century has him dying then. But him actually dying then is not----so Pocket says it was a ploy to "kill" him so he could work for Section 31.

Trip dying is exactly the sort of thing I mean. Somebody with a contract to write a book didn't like it so they decided to undo it.

Somebody decided to undo Kirk's death too. Trip died. He died in a stupid, wasteful, disrespectful to the fans way, but he died. Section 31 weren't involved, it wasn't a fake death, he died.

Romulus was destroyed in the original timeline because we saw it destroyed and Spock said it was destroyed. Unless we're calling Spock a liar now, of course.
 
If Hermiod feels the need to ignore the storytelling possibilities presented by imaginative interpretations and go with the obvious ones, that's his right.

I don't think that way, though.
 
If Hermiod feels the need to ignore the storytelling possibilities presented by imaginative interpretations and go with the obvious ones, that's his right.

I don't think that way, though.

There's nothing particularly imaginative about just undoing what someone else already did.

In the mainstream Star Trek continuity, Romulus was destroyed, Spock said as much and we saw it happen. He didn't imagine it. And in the new movie continuity Vulcan was too. I can't really help it if a few people are in denial about those two things any more than I can help people who are in denial about the Beastie Boys still be popular with kids or Nokia still being in business.

Trying to pretend that the two things didn't happen in some follow up novel is like finding Bobby Ewing in the shower and pretending everything you just watched was all a dream.
 
If Hermiod feels the need to ignore the storytelling possibilities presented by imaginative interpretations and go with the obvious ones, that's his right.

I don't think that way, though.

There's nothing particularly imaginative about just undoing what someone else already did.

In the mainstream Star Trek continuity, Romulus was destroyed, Spock said as much and we saw it happen. He didn't imagine it. And in the new movie continuity Vulcan was too. I can't really help it if a few people are in denial about those two things any more than I can help people who are in denial about the Beastie Boys still be popular with kids or Nokia still being in business.

Trying to pretend that the two things didn't happen in some follow up novel is like finding Bobby Ewing in the shower and pretending everything you just watched was all a dream.

It's not about pretending anything. It's about telling a story that puts what you thought you knew in a different light, sometimes with significantly different outcomes as a result. Both the original story and the revisit show entirely truthful things and mesh 100%, but the implications of the original are proven false and a more interesting outcome substituted via the additional story.

All we know about Romulus' destruction is that Old Spock experienced it. But he's part of the new timeline, so that doesn't give us any information about what the old timeline experienced.

Now, if Countdown does indeed show the E-E bopping around after Romulus poofed, then that's a (non-canon) argument in favor of the same happening in the original timeline.
 
I believe this explains the success of T'Bonz's team, the Pittsburgh Steelers. Clearly, the Steelers are composed of half Romulan-half Vulcans with superior strength and, now, attitude. We can therefore expect the Steelers to repeat in 2010. :)

In that case, T'Bonz will need lots of T'errible T'owels of course.
 
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