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I'm too important

Well, at least you don't have to wear rubber ears, and keep a poker face all day.

Oh, for a president that could make america feel good about itself!
 
I can tell you that no matter how much you might think you are too important to lose, unless you own the business you are expendable.
I am expendable, but if they fired me, they'd be completely fucked.
Why can't additional people be trained to take some of the off of you, RoJoHen? If my job expected me to work 15 hours a day for no extra pay I'd find a new one.
We're in the process of training people now, but it takes 3-4 weeks to train one person. Now, the real question is, why haven't they trained anybody new in the last 2 years?

Also, I am hourly, and I get overtime, so it's not like I'm not getting paid for it. But right now some time off would be more valuable to me.

I'd agree with RM. Also, if you were so important, you'd be raking in the dough right now. Are you? You're probably doing OK, but probably not rich either, I'm guessing.

And 3-4 weeks training really isn't so much. Someone would need at least 6 years of training for my job, and I'm expendable.

This is not to say you're not important. And, I can bet that you do great work. It seems like you take doing a good job seriously, which is great! Just be sure to live some. Get some time off, push for it.

Mr Awe

Yeah, I agree with this. If you are really so important, give them an ultimatum: "I want x vacation time guaranteed a year or I'll be looking for a new job." Offer to help them with training, of course. Be cooperative as much as possible. But your employer isn't the one feeling the pinch, you are. And therefore they have no incentive to give a damn about your lack of free time--it's not their problem.

They will get away with it as long as you let them. So don't.
 
I am the only one in my office who can reach the top shelf in the supply cabinet. It can be tough, but hard work is its own reward.
 
Yeah, I agree with this. If you are really so important, give them an ultimatum: "I want x vacation time guaranteed a year or I'll be looking for a new job." Offer to help them with training, of course. Be cooperative as much as possible. But your employer isn't the one feeling the pinch, you are. And therefore they have no incentive to give a damn about your lack of free time--it's not their problem.

They will get away with it as long as you let them. So don't.

All right, a few things:

1) I do get vacation time every year. I just don't have any saved up right now. My vacation from last year got blown away, and I ended up working in the middle of it.

2) Help with training? I am! I am the only one doing training.

3) My boss has nothing to do with my schedule. My schedule is written by one of my peers, and he is working just as many hours as I am. We have 4 people trained to my job. We need at least 6 to give everybody some measure of regular time off. Until we get people finished with training, there is literally nothing to do.

If I went to my boss and demanded time off, he'd respond by saying, "Yeah, I'd like some time off, too, but it ain't gonna happen."

The moral of the story is: We're understaffed.
 
I know many places would rather work a handful of people into the ground than hire new people which actually costs them more money...if they can get by with 4 of you then they are going to do it...don't buy into they only want to "train 1 person at a time"...that sounds like BS to me.
 
Yeah, I agree with this. If you are really so important, give them an ultimatum: "I want x vacation time guaranteed a year or I'll be looking for a new job." Offer to help them with training, of course. Be cooperative as much as possible. But your employer isn't the one feeling the pinch, you are. And therefore they have no incentive to give a damn about your lack of free time--it's not their problem.

They will get away with it as long as you let them. So don't.

All right, a few things:

1) I do get vacation time every year. I just don't have any saved up right now. My vacation from last year got blown away, and I ended up working in the middle of it.

2) Help with training? I am! I am the only one doing training.

3) My boss has nothing to do with my schedule. My schedule is written by one of my peers, and he is working just as many hours as I am. We have 4 people trained to my job. We need at least 6 to give everybody some measure of regular time off. Until we get people finished with training, there is literally nothing to do.

If I went to my boss and demanded time off, he'd respond by saying, "Yeah, I'd like some time off, too, but it ain't gonna happen."

The moral of the story is: We're understaffed.

You said it takes 3-4 weeks to train someone and that you need at least 2 more. That means within 2 months you should be able to solve the understaffing problem.

If you are the only person who can train people, why can't you train someone else to do training, too?

There is absolutely zero reason this situation should persist for more than a few months unless the people running the business are just asshole cheapskates.
 
Jetfire, that's a great point too. If they were really watching out for you, the'd be training more at a time. As it is, they don't care. It's working out OK for your boss. He really has no incentive to get more people trained quickly.
 
Nope, couldn't do it, not without leaving the place unstaffed. That's the problem. The only other people who could cover my shifts are in the exact same boat I am. So I can't take time off without forcing them to work even more.

What, there are no managers or owners? You guys need time off and away from the job. A manager or owner can cover a shift or two here or there.
 
That's a positive way of looking at the situation. Where I work, I've always felt appreciated by co-workers, and there was a time when people looked at me like I could walk on water, too. ;) I thought people were giving me way too much credit for just doing my job. Although things have changed over the years (new management, low employee morale, etc.), coming to work is still, for the most part, a good experience.
 
You said it takes 3-4 weeks to train someone and that you need at least 2 more. That means within 2 months you should be able to solve the understaffing problem.

If you are the only person who can train people, why can't you train someone else to do training, too?

There is absolutely zero reason this situation should persist for more than a few months unless the people running the business are just asshole cheapskates.
You're absolutely right, and it should be resolved in a couple months. That doesn't mean I can't still bitch about it now! :p The real problem for me is that it's taken 1.5 years of this for anybody to do anything about it. We've been telling them to train new people for a LONG time, and they just never bothered to do it.

We are all capable of training people. It's just that for some reason the current trainee has only been scheduled to work with me.

But yeah, in conclusion, the people running my business definitely are cheapskate assholes. My General Manager has been stealing money and liquor for the last 6 months. It's awesome.

Nope, couldn't do it, not without leaving the place unstaffed. That's the problem. The only other people who could cover my shifts are in the exact same boat I am. So I can't take time off without forcing them to work even more.


What, there are no managers or owners? You guys need time off and away from the job. A manager or owner can cover a shift or two here or there.
We have managers, but they don't have a fucking clue how to do my job. And they're understaffed as well. Our managers work 60-hour weeks because the owner doesn't want to pay to train new ones. So even if the managers knew how to do my job, there aren't any available to work my shifts.

Our owner is a giant douche.
 
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I am glad you got that covered. :lol:

Being your own boss is the way to go...but not many people are cut out for it unfortunately. :sigh:
 
Being your own boss is the way to go...but not many people are cut out for it unfortunately. :sigh:

Don't forget that for most self-employed people, they feel the reverse just as strongly. What I mean is that really, I had no other choice, psychologically speaking: I'm not cut out to be an employee. It would have been the easiest thing (in practical terms) to stay one, but psychologically, another 5-10 years of it and I would have gone nuts.

Finding one's psychological and emotional niche/habitat is vital!
 
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Very true.

[edit] I know that for some punching a time clock and working a shift for a salary(no matter how great it is) isn't enough and they need more, they need their own thing that means something to them and is in fact theirs...working for some company or institution cannot provide.
 
RoJo, sounds like you should be looking for employment elsewhere. Clueless, corrupt, douche owners and managers?! And, they don't care about you or your personal time? Time to go!

Mr Awe
 
You say that like I haven't been looking. Believe me, as soon as I find something else worthwhile, I'm outta there.
 
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