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If you could rewrite Voyager
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Enterprise
Set 30 years after Cochrane's first warp flight achieved warp three.
After Cochrane showed that relatively simple space craft can attain warp speed with essentially "bolt on" warp engines, Humans immediately start converting existing spacecraft and building new starships by the hundreds.
By the time of Enterprise, warp four is fairly standard. Individual Earth nations and private groups have been sending out exploration ships for over two decades. Trade and diplomacy soon followed. Then dozens of colonies.
Earth-gov was a little later to the game, some efforts were initially made to regulate what was turning into a "free-for-all," but the member countries weren't interested, and Earth-gov's attempts were shut down ... as nearly was Earth-gov itself.
Five year before Enterprise Earth-gov brought Starfleet into existence. The first ships purchased were older warp four surplus starships, later four member countries each loaned Starfleet one brand new starships equipped with cutting edge systems and the most advanced Rolls-Royce engines capable of warp five plus.
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Jonathan Archer, graduate of US Space Force academy, assigned to two US starships and a staff position at the Pentagon.
After leaving the Air Force he was second officer on a colony ship to Gliese 832 c, then first officer on a small CalTech exploration ship to the outer oort cloud, then captain of a National Geographic expedition to the Orrandan homeworld.
While on the Orrandan homeworld, Archer was instrumental in negotiating a large sales agreement between a Orion agricultural company and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Returning to Earth, Archer provide assistance to the families of a pair of Earth boomer ships.
Archer joined Starfleet two years before Enterprise, and commanded a older Starfleet ship prior to obtaining command of the Enterprise.
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Malcolm Reed is the Enterprise' first officer. Graduate of the Britannia Royal Naval College, as a Lt Commander he commanded the frigate HMSS (His Majesty's Star Ship) Princess Royal.
His assignments included a staff intelligence position at the Alpha Centauri naval station, while there Reed joined the British branch of section 31. Reed left the British Navy for Starfleet with the promise of faster career opportunities.
At the time of Enterprise, Reed has been with Starfleet for four months.
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Charles Tucker is the Enterprise's second officer and chief engineer. A civilian starship systems engineer, he first meet Archer aboard the CalTech exploration ship. They joined Starfleet on the same day and are the best of friends.
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Travis Mayweather is a mid-level petty officer. Born on a boomer spacecraft back before they had warp drive, he is one of the oldest members of the ship's company with wide experience in space/star travel and alien cultures, he is often the one who Archer turns to for advise.
Maywheather has been with Starfleet from day one, on the bridge he oversees helm and flight systems.
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Hoshi Sato, is a university linguistic professor and acclaimed polyglot savant. Inventor of the "universal translator," she approached Starfleet to test one of the first versions on a long duration starship, which they eagerly agreed. Officially a civilian contractor.
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Phlox is the ship's doctor. With Starfleet as as part of a Interspecies Medical Exchange. Officially a civilian contractor.
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T'Pol, is a graduate of the Vulcan Science academy aboard as a civilian scientist and unofficially as a observer of Starfleet's "little experiment." T'Pol does little to dissuade Archer from his belief that she's a spy.
Not a part of the ship's command structure, she none the less acts like she is. Officially a civilian contractor.
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I quite like this show "as is" but, if I was responsible for a re-write in some alternate universe, I'd give a decent build-up to the Chak-7 pairing. But then again I am practically the only person who is a fan of those two together. For example:
Omega Directive- their spiritual conversation regarding Omega could have been tweaked a little to include some tone or inflection that could perhaps move them closer together
Someone to Watch Over Me- Chak gives 7 an admirable glance after she threatens to remove the ambassador's arm
Survival Instinct- something small in the wake of their conversation, mainly for Chak
One Small Step- the two appeared "agitated" by each other, which could lead one to believe there is "something" brewing there anyway, but during the early scene between the two instead of being a dick about his book Chakotay could have diffused the situation with some light banter (as Seven attempted to). Plus a glance (or something) from Chak at the end of her telling them she's coming with them in the shuttle
Blink of an eye- something small between the two during their conversation in Astrometrics
Maybe some additional interaction between the two during Ashes to Ashes when Seven is explaining about activity schedule 238.
Natural Law- Seven wakes up in the cave being spooned by Chak and starts to get up, but thinks better of it and stays where she is. Prax advised that one, but I agree with him.
etc etc etc
Other than that I would alter Endgame regarding Janeway's character, but not sure exactly how/what. The elder Janeway (and the younger version, but to a far lesser extent) both seemed slightly OOC to me. Plus I agree with others that it would have been nice to see them actually get home.
Omega Directive- their spiritual conversation regarding Omega could have been tweaked a little to include some tone or inflection that could perhaps move them closer together
Someone to Watch Over Me- Chak gives 7 an admirable glance after she threatens to remove the ambassador's arm
Survival Instinct- something small in the wake of their conversation, mainly for Chak
One Small Step- the two appeared "agitated" by each other, which could lead one to believe there is "something" brewing there anyway, but during the early scene between the two instead of being a dick about his book Chakotay could have diffused the situation with some light banter (as Seven attempted to). Plus a glance (or something) from Chak at the end of her telling them she's coming with them in the shuttle
Blink of an eye- something small between the two during their conversation in Astrometrics
Maybe some additional interaction between the two during Ashes to Ashes when Seven is explaining about activity schedule 238.
Natural Law- Seven wakes up in the cave being spooned by Chak and starts to get up, but thinks better of it and stays where she is. Prax advised that one, but I agree with him.
etc etc etc
Other than that I would alter Endgame regarding Janeway's character, but not sure exactly how/what. The elder Janeway (and the younger version, but to a far lesser extent) both seemed slightly OOC to me. Plus I agree with others that it would have been nice to see them actually get home.
More than a Decon Chamber, Vulcan Nuropressure or Erotic Troi Foot Rub™ scene, that's for sure.
At it's most basic, immediately establish intimacy between two (or more) characters. Establish the type of relationship as well. That said, I can't really see it having a place in Berman-era Star Trek or it's target audience. Discovery's use in it's unique context worked quite well and was anything but "titillating".
But this brings me to another thing my Voyager would have - a lot more characters pairing off. Voyager was to become a generational ship, but only had two couples and two pregnancies on board. That's not how 150 people in close confines for the rest of their lives behave. Yes it would have been soap opera-ish, but without it you're missing out on a huge part of the human drama of people lost in space.
I don't agree with many of these fans. I think it's all about sexism and that after so many years, many still cannot deal with a female lead in a Trek show. If "VOYAGER" is guilty of not fulfilling its "potential", then so is "DEEP SPACE NINE", in my opinion. In fact, I believe the 1993-99 series had the potential to rise above the other Trek shows, thanks to its premise. But as far as I'm concerned, that potential was wasted. But I still love the show.
Great. You can use this to create a "If You Could Re-write Entrprise" thread.
Which is applying very 21st century mentality to relationships and sex in the 23rd/24th centuries. Look at how such things have moved on in the last century, from the Victorian mindset, notions of sex before marriage being pretty much taboo, the role of women in marriage, the fact that same sex relationships were illegal, etc. How society might view sex may be vastly different, especially taking into account alien perspectives on the matter (Deltan's don't just take an Oath of Celibacy for the sake of it). Even today how many people have had a fling or one-nighter with someone where the only sense of intimacy was the proximity of body parts, the likes of Kirk and Riker hopped into so many beds that it was almost a sport as opposed to anything with any real meaning.
So you're saying because attitudes to sex will change they shouldn't show it?
Trek has always been a reflection of the current times. TOS' dated attitudes, TNG barely acknowledging same-sex relationships and Disco treating them as normal are all from the era the shows were made, not the 23rd or 24th centuries.
I'm curious about where you're reading that. Maybe I skimmed the forums too often, but I haven't heard anyone suggest that Voyager would have gotten home at the end of the pilot if a man was the captain.
They don't say it outright. But many Trek fans have hinted their sexism in regard to Janeway so many times that I can barely keep count.
Oh, please. I, for one, was so intent on that incarnation of Trek having a female captain, that I declared my intention not to watch the show if its commanding officer was male! Having watched Trek since I was a teenage girl, and endured the indignities of "Captain, I'm frightened" and episodes like "Turnabout Intruder," having seen the leading women of TNG cast in traditional, "nurturing" roles, I wanted more than anything to see a female captain, a woman who was as capable in her own right as Kirk or Picard or Sisko were in theirs. You may be sure I had absolutely no complaint about the gender of the captain, the series star -- entirely the reverse! I was thrilled, delighted, and satisfied to finally see someone of my own gender in the center seat.
And yet, I say without qualm that Voyager did not live up to its potential. It failed to exploit much of what was unique about the series, in favor of being too much like any other Starfleet ship. The people of Voyager rarely acted like people who were isolated from the rest of their civilization, or families, or worlds; they never made themselves "at home," and rarely formed pair-bonds. As for the ship, it never even looked as if missed its annual inspection at Utopia Planetia. Why bother to take a ship and toss it all the way out into the Delta Quadrant if it's not going to change much of anything, for the vessel or its people?
Look, if you liked the show just as it was, that's fine and more power to you. Nothing wrong with that. You like what you like, and I like what I like. But to imply that the only reason one could possibly be dissatisfied with Voyager is because one has issues with the captain's gender -- that's not only wrong, it's insulting!
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I couldn't even make it through DS9
DS9 is the best of all the shows, though TOS is still my favorite.
And rarely formed pair-bonds?? Nope.
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Well I just disagree. DS9 did not capture my imagination or sense of adventure at all.
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Ds9 does not have a sense of humor about itself the way the other shows do. It takes itself a little too seriously while not delivering on it. It's much less profound than it purports to be.
While I don't agree that DS9 doesn't deliver -that's probably also a matter of taste-, I'll agree that Voyager has a certain quality of 'lightness' (a dangerous word, since it could also be construed to imply "Trek light" which is definitely not what I mean here) to it that DS9 lacks.
Though I wouldn't say that DS9 is the only show lacking it, neither can I find it in TNG for example, however much I like these shows otherwise.
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What clicks for me with DS9 compared to all the other shows is the character dynamics and camaraderie. To suggest that it doesn't have a sense of humor is false to me, because I get plenty out of it more so than most of Trek.
This scene here is to me when DS9 really found itself with the characters.
Infinitely more fun than anything with Neelix or the times Tom recounts how Harry goes after the wrong girl. The best humor was always from Doc. Never got enough from him.
This scene here is to me when DS9 really found itself with the characters.
Infinitely more fun than anything with Neelix or the times Tom recounts how Harry goes after the wrong girl. The best humor was always from Doc. Never got enough from him.
If I could change one thing, it would be that dynamic and that tension for at least a season.
