If you could remake any show...
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I agree, we need a sci-fi series that is:
- space-based
- based on credible science
- doesn't really want to be a cop show
- doesn't include a large number of soap-opera cliché subplots.
Enterprise. I'm currently writing a fanfic version of what I'd have done differently, but for those who don't fancy wading through it all here's a few points.
The Enterprise is a Declaration class vessel. Think ringship design, but a bit more sturdy. Designed by the military as a pure combat vessel. the project went way over budget, so the military had to ask rival organisation UESPA for help. As a result of this deal Enterprise was adapted for deep space research. It's crew is a mix of the two organisations, they don't always see eye to eye. There are also a few civilian scientists and specialists on board.
No transporters, phasers (or 'phase pistols') or shields. No FTL communication. The ship has to return home often for repairs, re-supply and to pass on what they have learnt.
No alien crew-members. This is a human ship. Aliens may temporarily join them, but nothing permanent.
Society is midway between what we have now and the utopian future Trek normally portrays. There is still poverty, bigotry and greed, even on Earth, but things are improving. At least one of the characters should be openly religious, another atheist.
No Klingons, Ferengi or Borg.
No Vulcan wears a catsuit. However, to keep the lads watching, the civilian chief scientific advisor does. She's brilliant, beautiful, buxom, and mad as a box of frogs.
The Enterprise is a Declaration class vessel. Think ringship design, but a bit more sturdy. Designed by the military as a pure combat vessel. the project went way over budget, so the military had to ask rival organisation UESPA for help. As a result of this deal Enterprise was adapted for deep space research. It's crew is a mix of the two organisations, they don't always see eye to eye. There are also a few civilian scientists and specialists on board.
No transporters, phasers (or 'phase pistols') or shields. No FTL communication. The ship has to return home often for repairs, re-supply and to pass on what they have learnt.
No alien crew-members. This is a human ship. Aliens may temporarily join them, but nothing permanent.
Society is midway between what we have now and the utopian future Trek normally portrays. There is still poverty, bigotry and greed, even on Earth, but things are improving. At least one of the characters should be openly religious, another atheist.
No Klingons, Ferengi or Borg.
No Vulcan wears a catsuit. However, to keep the lads watching, the civilian chief scientific advisor does. She's brilliant, beautiful, buxom, and mad as a box of frogs.
It's called The Land that Time Forgot....
Weird Science, but I'd make it a reality show, in which super-hot and smart, awesome women travel the country meeting well-intentioned but romantically inept nerds, give them makeovers, throw them parties, and coach them on being confident and flirtatious. Sort of like Beauty and the Geek meets The Pick-up Artist, but without the goofy magicians' hats, black fingernail polish or airhead blonde bimbos.
ENT and the entire frakkin' Stargate franchise - both cases of a good premise handled poorly. ENT needs to have Connor Trinneer and actually be about the birth of the Federation, which is the only reason to dabble in the 22nd C. Stargate needs to take some of the terrific ideas they've tossed around over the years and really dig into them instead of skimming the surface in a glib and skittish manner that suggests they trust neither the intelligence nor the attention span of their audience.
Oh yeah and Heroes. There's another great premise, horribly handled.
Switching rationales, I wouldn't mind seeing a JJ Abrams alt-reality remake of DS9. It was great the first time through, but that doesn't rule out a second try being great too.
But how bout Katee Sackhoff as Beka, Alan Tudyk as the engineer guy, Gigi Edgley as Trance Gemini, William Fitchner as Rev Bem and Keith Hamilton Cobb is the only original actor brought over to the new show, too.
However, they are useful - in that they suggest that doing the opposite would result in a pretty decent story.
That would be completely different from Lost, and in fact, I think a series somewhat like that might be planned for next season? If we're all good kids!
Oh yeah and Heroes. There's another great premise, horribly handled.
Switching rationales, I wouldn't mind seeing a JJ Abrams alt-reality remake of DS9. It was great the first time through, but that doesn't rule out a second try being great too.
Sounds good to me.Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda with thrice the budget, starring Clancy Brown as Dylan Hunt and Lucy Lawless as Beka Valentine.Robert Hewitt Wolfe remains showrunner throughout all seasons.
But how bout Katee Sackhoff as Beka, Alan Tudyk as the engineer guy, Gigi Edgley as Trance Gemini, William Fitchner as Rev Bem and Keith Hamilton Cobb is the only original actor brought over to the new show, too.Can't he be both?
These ideas are laughably horrible!
However, they are useful - in that they suggest that doing the opposite would result in a pretty decent story.Oh Jericho! They were really onto something in that second season. The gubmint conspiracy was so badly written that I would have just kept the cause of the nuclear attack a mystery forever after - there was no way they could write an explanation that wasn't a stupid distraction to what the real story should be. The stuff with Major Beck trying to bring order to his little slice of Kansas while Skeet was trying to stop the situation from blowing up - great stuff!
Jurassic Park the series? I would watch.
That would be completely different from Lost, and in fact, I think a series somewhat like that might be planned for next season? If we're all good kids!
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Temis I like the rest of your Andromeda recasting...Alan Tudyk as Harper is inspired.
The original Andromeda has already cornered the market on laughably horrible. However can someone not notice? Recasting with personal favorites wouldn't make it a bit smarter. The real show has already done the opposite and the results were truly dire.
Keith Hamilton Cobb is an extremely handsome man, and playing an ideological fanatic wouldn't change that. But Nietzcheans not being cool would make him not sexy. So, no, it isn't possible. And Nietzcheans were even dumber than the Way.
Keith Hamilton Cobb is an extremely handsome man, and playing an ideological fanatic wouldn't change that. But Nietzcheans not being cool would make him not sexy. So, no, it isn't possible. And Nietzcheans were even dumber than the Way.
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Hey, that's my girlfriend you're talking about!
She's not mad ... just mildly eccentric.
I like a lot of these ideas. I thought the Declaration class idea was really cool. And how UESPA and the military would have to work together. I've often thought ENT should've really shown the human adventure.
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I really wouldn't change much...just give it a 3rd season.
Kyle XY...this was a great concept, on horrible network...ABC Family and filler for ABC Friday night???
I really wouldn't change much...just give it a 3rd season.
Kyle XY...this was a great concept, on horrible network...ABC Family and filler for ABC Friday night???
What about DS9 from the mirror universe perspective?
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But kinda scary.
But kinda scary.
I have no idea how bad Andromeda was. I never made it past the premiere episode.
Sorbo alone was enough to send me packing!But the premise is decent and I got enough of an idea of the characters that I can think of actors that would work well in the roles. I'm assuming the writing won't suck - why would I plan for bad writing after going to all the trouble of getting good actors?
I'm dumping Sorbo. Maybe some of the others can hang around.
I like this idea, but I think it would be more interesting if the Enterprise were originally a research vessel with the military forced upon it. I can see a scientific organization like UESPA running short of funding more easily than the military (unfortunately), and I think there would be more tension if the military were the ones nosing in on UESPA's project. But your interpretation is equally valid, and probably a little less of a cliche than mine.
I've got ideas for rebooting ENT, but a lot of my character do-overs are very similar to JiNX's. ::shakes his fist angrily
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^ I had an idea for that regarding Enterprise. I would've played up Archer as an explorer who is a man of science who may only be the captain because of his father. Brought aboard as his first officer is a military man who has been passed over for captaincy numerous times and has a chip on his shoulder. They're both rather old for a captain and commander, respectively, because Starfleet is still young but the next generation is rapidly advancing and they're quickly becoming dinosaurs.
Meh the days of making command crew a boy's club should be past - lets have two women to even things out.
Not a remake per se but I'd love them to make a series of movies to resolve Odyssey 5 - I really enjoyed that show, especially the way the reporter tries to save her son and totally screws things up by being too desperate. Way cool.
Not a remake per se but I'd love them to make a series of movies to resolve Odyssey 5 - I really enjoyed that show, especially the way the reporter tries to save her son and totally screws things up by being too desperate. Way cool.
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