If you could go back and redo a movie over...

[Admiral2]

TMP and V would have entirely new plots, new scripts and new directors.

TMP is too long for little or no payoff. V has crap effects and visuals, too many bad jokes and also no payoff.

GEN is a nice torch-passing flick with a silly premise. I would make Malcolm McDowell an actual villain instead of just some idiot chasing the "Space Ribbon of DOOM."

The only change INS and NEM need is to not exist...so they wouldn't.

II, IV, VI and FC are fine just the way they are.

Kinda neutral on III. Not my favorite but not bad enough for me to want changes...

 

[Capn Nick]

Just to the point a few people made about having Sulu command the Excelsior sooner, I'd argue that a lot of the movies, particularly the Next Generation movies could have been improved by the freedom of not having to have a week to week cast in the same defined roles. One really cool part, in my opinion, of All Good Things, was that we got to see them move on and take on new roles, that put them into conflict with each other in a constructive way. If you took a movie like Insurection, which was essentially about the Federation making a less than reputable deal and Picard going rogue, and let the time lapse play into it, I think it would have been, if not better, at least more fun.

Say Picard is the ambassador to that planet or sector. Puts him at odds with a Federation admiral on goals of the Federation. Riker has a ship (maybe the Enterprise to keep it in the film), but instead of being an inexplicably over qualified aging commander with nothing to do, he and Data have to go try to talk sense into Picard, before being convinced. Let Worf be the ambassador to Kronos, convincing the Klingons to help Picard even though they will be in conflict with Starfleet. Things like that.

Nothing wrong with the "just like the show they are all exactly where you expect them" - but the original movies, to their credit, contrived some clever changes to create drama. Kirk and Decker in TMP and the brilliant way they set up Kirk and Spock's initially different approaches and acceptance of change in Star Trek VI by making Spock the peacemaker and Kirk the cold warrior. It makes their age and experience a benefit to the story, as opposed to the last couple Next Generation movies where their experience doesn't come much into play.

 

[publiusr]

I would have the crew of the 1701-A meet the Enterprise-D--but Q force them to forget at the end.

 

[Gaith]

If I'm going to rewrite history... then what the heck, I'll be bold erase the decent but utterly unnecessary First Contact. Make the eight movie an action-packed specific incident/battle of the Dominion War movie instead, something swashbuckling and straightforward enough for mainstream audiences, like having to rescue hostages of a potential ally or destroying a superweapon, and involve the DS9 writers so they could organically weave the movie's important but smaller story into their larger Dominion War arc around the time of the movie's release.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Nemesis would, in my opinion, be 99% junked, including the title.

If we are to hav a swan song for the TNG crew, it would have been very fitting to go out the way the TOS crew did in TUC -- changing tides and possible peace.

TNG had many unanswered puzzle pieces that would have been wonderful here. Instead of Klingons as in TUC, I'd have made it Romulans (possibly the only thing saved from Nemesis).

It's been a few years since the main powers have started recovering from the Dominion war. The Romulans feel gilted, used and grow ever increasingly suspicious of the Federation after the tactics and weaponry used, meanwhile their other enemy, the Klingon empire, is closer to the Federation than ever. The Tal Shiar are more than concerend and spear-headed by Sela, they intend to change things in favor of the Romulan Star empire.

Meanwhile, fearing war as drums are beat on Romulus, Spock fears peace is no logner possible and proceed to try and evacuate defectors.


That's a quick off the top of my head general idea. Things coem to a head, but in the end both sides are left with the possibility of peace in their futures, as well as between the Romulans and Vulcans. Story lines for Sela and Spock can be tired up, Riker can finally move into his own command and maybe even earn his potential marriage with Troi this time. Picard might be given the chance to be promoted to admiral but decides life has grown short and decides to follow his passion -- archeology.

Riker: "Sir, where will you go?"

Picard: "Oh, a little here, a little there, number one. I mean, captain. The past never dies, Will; it just needs somebody to remember it. Yourself?"

Riker: "Chart a nebula or some such. But given previous experiences, I'm sure it'll be far more interesting than that."

Picard: "The future belongs to those who seize it. Captain."

 

[Shalashaska]

For Generations, I'd get rid of Soran altogether. The villain formula had gotten really stale even by then and it felt completely out-of-place in a TNG film.

I think a Yesterday's Enterprise-esque story with Captain Kirk could have been good. Didn't Quentin Tarantino say recently that he wants to do a film adaptation of that episode? Could have been a good opportunity back then.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Didn't Quentin Tarantino say recently that he wants to do a film adaptation of that episode? Could have been a good opportunity back then.

He did? ST4 please

 

[Galileo7]

For Generations, I'd get rid of Soran altogether. The villain formula had gotten really stale even by then and it felt completely out-of-place in a TNG film.

I think a Yesterday's Enterprise-esque story with Captain Kirk could have been good. Didn't Quentin Tarantino say recently that he wants to do a film adaptation of that episode? Could have been a good opportunity back then.

Yes, Quentin Tarantino stated that "Yesterday's Enterprise" should have been re-written as a motion picture. Tarantino is a fan of TOS/Kirk era.

 

[Green]

If'n I was in charge: STIII would not have gone the way it did. The story would end with Kirk not finding Spock alive, or perhaps not at all. And having to face up to being middle-aged, a father, having lost his best friend, and his ship and maybe his career and the cold fact that some times even a really cool plan and the best intentions might not work out. At that point, Trek could have really used that sort of veracity and gravitas in its storytelling, IMO. David would not have been killed-off and would be around for future movies. STIV could still be a redemption story, but Kirk would not just be handed a spanking brand-new identical Enterprise replacement - he may have regained command status but it's be in a different ship, maybe Excelsior or a Reliant-type vessel perhaps. Saavik would not have been sidelined. William Shatner would not have been let anywhere near the director's chair or writer's room for STV. Beyond that the butterflies take over any it's anyone's guess.

So funny, this was the first time I have clicked this thread and I was about to type about 90% of the same thing. At some point Trek was going to continue without Spock---what difference if it's 1984 or 1987. They squandered all of the good work of TWOK for a moderately entertaining movie that deconstructs the previous movie in every way. Go forward, introduce new characters, let the older crew become mentors, not punch lines and the butt of jokes. But when you put the cast in charge of the movies---what else do you expect. Then we find it takes till TUC for it to exhaust itself instead of going ahead to tell the limitless number of stories that can be told in the 23rd century era.

 

[Green]

I would love to see a better version of Trek III. Some ideas I've had were:

• Get Kirsty Alley back or at least have Robin Curtis try to evoke more of her performance, with similar make-up and hairstyle.
• Give the other major non-trio cast members more to do and have Saavik and David mixed in with them instead of off on their own.
  
• I'd have Sulu be promoted to captain of the Excelsior and be the one forced to chase Kirk down, maybe with Scotty in tow, who eventually starts sabotaging things. Sulu wants to be the one to bring Kirk back safely but they both end up rejoining Kirk and company again.
  
• (Maybe) Have Genesis falling apart because it turned the nebula into the planet and not because David was reckless. Just have Spock reborn as the same age instead of a baby or whatever happened.
  
• Have David and Saavik part of Kirk's cadre, who help steal the Enterprise in place of Scotty and Sulu, and have Uhura here as well. David still gets killed saving Spock somehow. I'd like to have seen David Marcus more but I think there needs to be a cost to saving Spock and I like how his death is still felt in Trek VI.
  
• Use location shooting for scenes on Genesis.
• Do something more with Kruge. I can't think of what but he just doesn't seem very interesting to me.

I like all that more than what they gave us--only difference is I would have left Spock dead and David alive. That right there could have been a quick re-write that actually could have been filmed.
Oh, and not have the rest of Starfleet be morons and a-holes.

 

[Shat Happens]

I'd have V have good special effects and music by someone other than Jerry Goldsmith - by that time TNG had appropriated the theme already.

Maybe that idea of the "Shakaree God" being Gary Mitchell would work

 

[PlainSimpleJoel]

For Nemesis - I would have got another Director, and got rid of Shinzon completely.

 

[Warped9]

TFF is rather like TOS' "The Way To Eden" writ larger. Both get panned yet both are trying to say something although folks might disagree on what is being said.

Given a choice, though, I prefer "The Way To Eden."

 

[Galileo7]

TFF when the Admiral(Harve Bennett) says there are other starships available (which is amazing! ), but their captains are no James Kirk . The Admiral should have ordered Kirk to rendezvous with one of those other fully-functioning starships, i.e. transporter and with a full crew compliment to go to Nimbus III. [Then write a far superior script with Spock's brother in custody and all threats resolved. ]

 

[M-Red]

If I could choose only one, then Nemesis.

If I could really go back in time and be in control of Star Trek, then after First Contact became a commercial and critical success, I'd sit down and plot a coherent strategy for bringing the TNG narrative (and the entire TNG-DS-VOY era) to a proper conclusion.

Because of this, I'd wait until after DS9's run was over to release the third TNG film. So late '99 or 2000. Insurrection would be completely scrapped and a 2-part film would replace it --- essentially a Nemesis-like Romulan-centric story but completely different than the Romulan-Reman-clone (??) story we got.

This story would be set after the end of the Dominion War (which would bring the writers and the audience all up to speed going into the film), and it would feature RIker and Troi already married and on the Titan, Data as XO, Worf on a mission to Q'noS as ambassador, and a discreet romance already underway between Picard and Crusher. Shinzon would be much older, have no connection to Picard, and be cast as a Caesar-type figure who became beloved by the people and hated by the wealthy political elites in the Senate. In this, Shinzon would still overthrow the Senate but he'd do it through popular will, and he wouldn't seek to destroy Earth but shift the balance of interstellar power away from the Federation. He'd be intelligent and charming...sometimes quite likeable.

And it would in end in a cliff-hanger style with Our Heroes in a desperate situation -- Empire Strikes Back style. It was high time for the TNG crew to lose one, and it was time for the story to be propelled down the road.

The sequel film (fourth in the series) would be shot concurrently with the first (or much of it) foand would be released a year later -- in 2001 or early '02, after Voyager's series had ended. It would include Spock, a Voyager cameo, and it would weave all Our Heroes back onto the bridge of the Ent-E by the end of the film.

Then I'd produce a Q film for the fifth and final film of the series --released in '04 -- which would include a DS9 cameo at the outset before the story got rolling. This one would be really fun, and it would bring the entire TNG story to a logical endpoint, acting as the capstone to the Q-centric story that began with Farpoint and continued through All Good Things....

But I've already written enough here.

In my perfect world.

 

[Shat Happens]

I'd replace Saavik's uniform for a shirtless design.

what?

 

[Green]

^^^^ I like the wrapping up if the whole multi franchise idea there.

all during the 2000s I thought they should do a "Mission Impossible" type Trek movie with characters from all 3 series included....Riker, Worf, O'Brien, the Doctor, Tuvok, Garak, Seven, Geordi, Kira, Paris---sent on a covert mission where the Feds couldn't legally go

 

[Pauln6]

TMP - I'd add a bit more TOS dynamic to the character interactions and try to give each of the recurring cast a scene in which they could shine, a bit like the NuTrek movies do. I would have preferred to see a landing party of some kind, not just consisting of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, attempting to penetrate V'ger.

TWoK - I rather liked getting to know the crew of Regula One a bit more and the character scenes with Saavik and Peter. I would have given Spock a code that a 5-year old could not see through.

TFS - I would have liked Sulu to be involved with Excelsior. I would have liked Chapel and Rand to have had some kind of role at Starfleet Command. I would have liked to see Uhura's full contribution to the escape plan (scrambling security comms and seeking asylum at the Vulcan Embassy). I would have liked them to build on Saavik's half-Romulan heritage.

TVH - Chekov is a former security chief - don't make him an idiot. I wish more of Chapel's role remained.

TFF - Make Nimbus III more credible. Explain why they can't just beam out the hostages. Move the hidden planet from the centre of the universe to somewhere more local. Sulu and Rand on Excelsior.

TUC - Less cheese. More Saavik. Chekov is a former security chief - don't make him an idiot. More familiar faces, and more varied aliens at the conference. A smarter get out than a skin tab that would, even under current technological conditions, have been easily detected and removed. Hell, it could be detected in any transporter beam. Lame.

 

[Crazyewok]

Yes, Quentin Tarantino stated that "Yesterday's Enterprise" should have been re-written as a motion picture. Tarantino is a fan of TOS/Kirk era.

A Quentin Tarantino startrek movie would be the most F up but epic startrek film.

I would love to see the reaction of the "but Genes vision " crowd.