If/When Picard retires, who should be the next captain?
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I see your point, but I think Worf's record doesn't make him a 'typical' candidate for the captain's chair. Plus, being first officer of the flagship is probably more prestigious than some captain's posts on smaller vessels.
Bringing in a new character has pluses and minuses. I'm not totally opposed to the idea, but I don't get the why when you already have a character many fans would see as a legit successor. Plus, Worf's face is one that you can put on books and it will sell. Assuming you are talking about a completely new character, that's just more money and time that has to be spent on explaining who that person is. Unless they just go the Voyager route and feature the ship on all the book covers. Right now the E-E has quite a few new characters that it will take years to develop. Why add one more?
Worf has commanded the Defiant several times as well as a Klingon ship or two. He didn't hold the rank of captain, but he has command experience.
(that said I still say Data!)
(that said I still say Data!)
Worf is the most likely candidate to replace Picard in the center chair.
On the issue of the Enterprise-A being decommissioned, that was not what was said. Uhura only said, "we're being decommissioned," and Kirk's final log entry confirmed this by saying (emphasis mine), "Captain's Log, stardate 9529.1. This is the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise under my command. This ship and her history will shortly become the care of a new generation. To them and their posterity will we commit our future. They will continue the voyages we have begun, and journey to all the undiscovered countries, boldly going where no man... where no one has gone before."
Kirk and his officers are being decommissioned, not the Enterprise. We just never knew who took command afterwards.
On the issue of the Enterprise-A being decommissioned, that was not what was said. Uhura only said, "we're being decommissioned," and Kirk's final log entry confirmed this by saying (emphasis mine), "Captain's Log, stardate 9529.1. This is the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise under my command. This ship and her history will shortly become the care of a new generation. To them and their posterity will we commit our future. They will continue the voyages we have begun, and journey to all the undiscovered countries, boldly going where no man... where no one has gone before."
Kirk and his officers are being decommissioned, not the Enterprise. We just never knew who took command afterwards.
Well she would've had to been retired not too long afterward considering the launch of the Enterprise-B takes place less than a year later. Though the decision to retire it may not have been made until after the Khitomer conference and was done based solely on the damage done during that affair.
^It could have been destroyed.
We just don't know what happened.
On topic, I maintain that Worf is the right candidate because of his experience as a front-line war officer, his four years as an ambassador, and his 20 or so years of experience under two of the most capable commanding officers in the entire fleet.
We just don't know what happened.
On topic, I maintain that Worf is the right candidate because of his experience as a front-line war officer, his four years as an ambassador, and his 20 or so years of experience under two of the most capable commanding officers in the entire fleet.
But the character is worn-out. He's appeared in 250+ episodes of Star Trek, four feature films and countless novels and comics.
There's no reason to needlessly beat your audience over the head with the same characters over and over again (not to mention we got an additional 178 episodes of Klingon non-sense with Voyager). I thought it was a very poor move to begin with, bringing Worf back. Not sure how many more times I can do culture clash stories because humans do things one way and Klingons do it another.
Give Worf a rest. He's earned it.
In the novels: The Enterprise-A and her crew are given a post-STVI extension at the end of Best Destiny which lasts through Sarek and maybe one or two other books. After that, The Ashes of Eden sees the Enterprise-A sold and eventually destroyed.
Here in the Treklit forum, that's what happened
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So Troi should be captain?
In the novels: The Enterprise-A and her crew are given a post-STVI extension at the end of Best Destiny which lasts through Sarek and maybe one or two other books. After that, The Ashes of Eden sees the Enterprise-A sold and eventually destroyed.
Here in the Treklit forum, that's what happened
None of that fits in the "Prime" Timeline though.
The E-A might have made it to the Museum.
Couldn't the same be said for most of the other characters, especially the TOS characters like Kirk or Spock?
Doesn't it? Seems fine to me.In the novels: The Enterprise-A and her crew are given a post-STVI extension at the end of Best Destiny which lasts through Sarek and maybe one or two other books. After that, The Ashes of Eden sees the Enterprise-A sold and eventually destroyed.
Here in the Treklit forum, that's what happened
None of that fits in the "Prime" Timeline though.
Doesn't it? Seems fine to me.In the novels: The Enterprise-A and her crew are given a post-STVI extension at the end of Best Destiny which lasts through Sarek and maybe one or two other books. After that, The Ashes of Eden sees the Enterprise-A sold and eventually destroyed.
Here in the Treklit forum, that's what happened
None of that fits in the "Prime" Timeline though.
I believe Best Destiny does not fit within the accepted Star Trek Prime Timeline continuity and The Ashes of Eden is apart of the Shatnerverse.
Ashes of Eden is the first of the Shatner novels, but nothing in that book (ignoring the sequels that deal with Kirk's 24th century resurrection) conflicts with TV/film or novel Trek continuity.
As for Best Destiny, there are a few discrepancies and a few bits have to be ignored when looking at the "big picture", but similar can be said of episodes like "Balance of Terror", "True Q" or every other episode of Voyager. And they're still considered part of Trek's continuity.
So it's more "something like that happened" - but that's the only way to make Star Trek work as a whole.
As for Best Destiny, there are a few discrepancies and a few bits have to be ignored when looking at the "big picture", but similar can be said of episodes like "Balance of Terror", "True Q" or every other episode of Voyager. And they're still considered part of Trek's continuity.
So it's more "something like that happened" - but that's the only way to make Star Trek work as a whole.
I don't think Worf is worn out. He is an excellent character due to all of his internal conflicts and having to juggle so many loyalties. Of course those loyalties have been my primary issue.
I also don't think Worf's diplomacy experience means much since it was to his own people and meant working with his adoptive father. I don't think that experience would be of much value in dealing with Typhon Pact species.
However, the point that Worf commanded the Defiant is a valid one. He did gather excellent command experience there.
I don't know if I'd call Martock as his adoptive father, that would be Sergey Rozhenko. I'm pretty sure they referred to themselves as brothers in the show.
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