yeah that novel wasnt my favourite book. One of the only ones I ever read.
If Trek XI ends in the new timeline?
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Get the Bible outta that man's hands!
This is why the potential for future movies or even a tv series is so fantastic. Whatever happens in the film (you would assume Nero loses), the Fed and Klingons will be massively weakened. The obvious benefactors would be the Romulans. We will have a totally different 23rd century.
We could meet characters we already know from TOS onwards and see them in a totally different setting (like new Kirk etc).
The possibilities are endless and while it's taken me a while to get used to it, imo it's more exciting than a new ST series/movie set in the existing universe post-Nemesis.
We could meet characters we already know from TOS onwards and see them in a totally different setting (like new Kirk etc).
The possibilities are endless and while it's taken me a while to get used to it, imo it's more exciting than a new ST series/movie set in the existing universe post-Nemesis.
If the timeline is not restored, then Spock has no motivation to keep much of anything from the resultant Federation - and in some cases, every reason to put them in the know. They could prevent the occupation of Bajor, handle first contact with the Dominion differently, keep Voyager from getting lost, handle the Botany Bay, prevent the destruction of Romulus, get ready for the Borg, prevent Sybok from hijacking starships, stop Dr. Soran before he gets started, try to end the Klingon, Romulan, and Cardassian adversarial relationships through completely superior tech (taught to them by Spock), and that's just for starters.
One thing it would seem they would definitely want to do, if nothing else, is go ahead and make contact with species that would have been close allies by the early 25th century (when Spock comes from) - Trill, Betazoids, and so forth. So yes, I would expect to see some of them in coming movies. In fact, I'll be disappointed if we don't, because it will be like those times on Smallville when Clark conveniently doesn't think of a rather obvious use of one of his powers because it would end the episode in 10 minutes instead of 44.
One thing it would seem they would definitely want to do, if nothing else, is go ahead and make contact with species that would have been close allies by the early 25th century (when Spock comes from) - Trill, Betazoids, and so forth. So yes, I would expect to see some of them in coming movies. In fact, I'll be disappointed if we don't, because it will be like those times on Smallville when Clark conveniently doesn't think of a rather obvious use of one of his powers because it would end the episode in 10 minutes instead of 44.
My sentiments exactly...
Canon and continuity are important when you are producing what basically boils down to a forty-year science fiction saga and can be fun to follow when you are a fan, but there comes a time when you have to accept that they have become a straightjacket, nipping any kind of creativity in the budd...
Ironically that book of Shatners is the one he was using as a "great example" of how he couldve brought his character back to be in the new movie, saying how easy it was to bring Kirk back in his novel in that youtube video complaint he made to Abrahms.
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Rear Admiral
He was a starship captain and he died on the 'bridge'... he should be happy. Writing his own return was just being a sore loser.
If he had waited patiently like Spock did the writers might have been more inserested in giving him a proper return with the XI timeline, but he screwed himself over.
If he had waited patiently like Spock did the writers might have been more inserested in giving him a proper return with the XI timeline, but he screwed himself over.
Spock in fact has EVERY reason to fix things in the new Timeline.
1. Regardless of Timeline, it is still the Crew of the USS Enterprise, and a younger version of himself, caught in the middle.
2. The change in timeline does not diminish the inherent value of the lives that must be saved by stopping Nero.
3. He may be unaware that he is in a parallel universe, but perhaps trying to reverse damage to his own future, even if he can only do so partially.
4.
To convince his younger self NOT to purge his emotions, his anger will be needed to stop Nero at the end of the movie... and beat up Kirk halfway through... hehe
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Would Trek fans accept a new rebooted time line where a future Spock gives the 23rd century Federation future technology and information about future conflicts and as yet un-discovered civilisations? Is it logical for Spock a Vulcan to do that?
Personally I would love the idea of a new rebooted time line where Spock (realising all hopes of restoring the time line are gone) prepares the Federation for the future, we could get to see how this new Federation takes shape over the centuries. I can live with that so long as it is made clear as crystal that it is a separate time line and not the original.
I can imagine the Federation sending the Enterprise to the Bajoran Wormhole in the 23rd century to close it.
So I geuss both ''DC'' & ''MARVEL'' have terrible writers then.
So I geuss both ''DC'' & ''MARVEL'' have terrible writers then.
You understand the answer to that to be "no," for some reason?
Please, it's "canon"...not "cannon".
I think the Federation is going to be much more powerful after Nero's alterations in the timeline. I think out of this, the Federation is going to have no problems with races like the Klingons or Romulans, it could very well change the face of the galaxy as we know it, the Federation is going to be one tough fleet to contend with.
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