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If Trek were "realistic"-- who would you see KILLED?

Danoz

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So, if Star Trek were more "realistic" in the sense that you're always pretty sure your favorite characters are going to stay alive (with the exception of ) and Trek were more like the series 24 where main characters are ALWAYS at risk for being killed... and you have to choose 3 main cast members from Voyager to lose their life, who would it be? How would you have them killed? And how would you conclude the story without them?

1. VOYAGER:
Harry Kim - would have been killed in the episode "favorite son" accidentally by the species that kidnapped him. Being kidnapped and genetically altered by an alien race has consequences, you don't always get rescued and returned to normal.

Chakotay - would have been killed in shuttle crash. He was certainly in enough of them to have statistically been killed at some point. Tuvok would take his place as first officer, and the Maquis crew would start to feel betrayed.

Tuvok & Neelix - killed in a transporter accident leaving "Tuvix" as first officer. Genetically reversing such a dramatic physical and mental merging is unlikely to be discovered by our CG doctor at the end of the episode.
 
Kathryn Janeway - She would sacrifice her life in the last episode fighting the Borg Queen, or some other threat, to get her family home. The real Janeway and not some future version.

Harry Kim - He would have died in Scorpion. Not with some lame virus death, but by stealing a Borg transwarp coil and helping Voyager escape. Kes would, of course, have lived on.

Neelix - He would have died in the Tuvix transporter deal. When they separate the process was too much for his one lung to bear and he doesn't make it.
 
Tuvok & Neelix - killed in a transporter accident leaving "Tuvix" as first officer. Genetically reversing such a dramatic physical and mental merging is unlikely to be discovered by our CG doctor at the end of the episode.

Never mind the unlikelihood of such a merging happening in the first place. ;)

In one of the dvd interviews it was mentioned that "Human Error" was supposed to be the start of a tragic arc for Seven culminating in her death to save the crew in the finale. Obviously they chickened out and had a future Janeway save the day instead but it would have been a gutsy move.
 
I would have killed off 1/2 the crew in "the year of hell" and slowly replaced them with different aliens from the Delta Quadrant who have been displaced by the Borg and are looking for a better life / future of their species.

Maybe have a species that only has 10 people left so they all join the Voyager crew with their "gene" bank and they want to hitch a ride on Voyager with the intent of re-settling their civilization in the Alpha Quadrant far far away from the Borg.

It would increase the jeopardy of fail if voyager didn't make it.
 
I'm amazed any of them made it to season two.

Janeway should have been killed in the first or second episode by Seska, putting Chakotay in charge who she finds easier to manipulate.

Chakotay, with the exception possibly of Carthexis should have made it out the other side of Season one, but only because he was so inconsequential as to make any bothersome ripples.

Tuvok should have been taken back to that planet he stole the transporter technology from in prime factors by janeway as she talks about respecting other cultures and the Prime Directive is good. They'd execute him at the least. OR... he should have been MURDERED in learning Curve for being a complete bastard to those Maquis. Why the frak wasn't he stabbed?

Tom Should have been executed in Ex Post facto, and Janeway talks about respecting other cultures and the Prime Directive is good, when others are trying to commandeer the torpedo launchers to strafe the damn planet, not that anyone loved Tom at that point. Actually he was hated and wouldn't have been missed. So, no vengeance for Tom. My bad.

The B'Elanna's should have killed each other in faces.

Neelix should have tissue rejected Kes's first lung, but she loved him so much she gave him another, and they both died.

Harry Kim should died in every episode. Illurgic to Caretaker cum till he's dead and so on.
 
None of them.

I mean, here we have the best characters in any Star Trek series. They are too good to be killed off. It was bad enough when they killed off Lt. Carey.
 
You may not survive the movie if you have sex.
You may not survive the movie if you drink or do drugs.
You may not survive the movie if you say "I'll be right back","Hello?" or "Who's there?"

CAREY: Hello.
SEVEN: Sir.
CAREY: Lieutenant Carey. I don't think we've met.
SEVEN: Jameson, Anna, Service number eight six zero seven nine zero.
CAREY: I'm not security. I'm just trying to get to know all the new faces around here. What are you working on?
SEVEN: I am attempting to realign the EPS manifolds.
CAREY: Do you need a hand?
SEVEN: No.
CAREY: Well, maybe I'll see you in the Mess hall later.
SEVEN: Unlikely.
CAREY: Hmm?
SEVEN: I am not a member of Voyager's crew. I'm on assignment here at Utopia Planitia.
CAREY: Too bad. Well, next time I'm in the neighbourhood I'll drop by and say hello.
It's obvious from the Tone that Josh was using here, that he intended to bed Seven.

Carey was doomed.
 
1. The Doctor hits a high note resulting in a cascade failure.

2. Seven of Nine breaks her neck while running in high heels.

3. Paris is electrocuted while making modifications to a shuttle.
 
Personally, I would think Voyager would have been more interesting if the senior staff in the series weren't the senior staff when they left DS9.

For example, Janeway could have been a Lt. Commander, or whatnot, but due to the original captain and first officer dying, she would've been forced to take command and promote those she thought were right for the job to take the rest of the senior staff's place.
 
Voyager's First officer, doctor and Chief engineer died in the trip to the Delta Quadrant. Y'Know, since it was a meritocracy, that Carey Stood Down for B'Elanna, why didn't quid pro quo B'Elanna stand down for Anika?
 
Belanna Killed by Vorik during his Pon Farr.

Harry Kim, not replaced by other Harry.

HoloDoc, lost during one of many attacks.
 
If Harry and Naomi hadn't died... Would Janeway have still sent them across to the other ship lacking those particular people?

Would Sam have raised two identical children, and would Kim have double dated with himself? Takl about the wort case of bait and switch ever. :(
 
Paris and Kim in "Non Sequitur." They somehow manage to break in and steal a runabout all by themselves, then it blows up. Paris actually dies, but since time changes back to the way it was he's okay.

Y'Know, since it was a meritocracy, that Carey Stood Down for B'Elanna, why didn't quid pro quo B'Elanna stand down for Anika?

Because Seven got the plushy Astrometrics job. Next one behind her would be Kim. Think about it - the kind of scenes in the series that took place in Astrometrics took place around Kim's console in the first three seasons.
 
I thought Chakotay and Harry did die. They were just placed in their chairs for scenes, and some guy with a piece of wire moved their mouths while some other guy on the phone spoke the lines.

I think they should've killed Seven, introduced another "Alien Babe Joins Voyager" and just kill her off every season or so. Endgame would then have climaxed with Janeway killing all female aliens because they were incapable of staying alive under her command.

Would she have got the promotion to Vice Admirmal then? HMM? HMMM?

I love that idea about Neelix's body rejecting the lung :p superb!
 
For example, Janeway could have been a Lt. Commander, or whatnot, but due to the original captain and first officer dying, she would've been forced to take command and promote those she thought were right for the job to take the rest of the senior staff's place.

I think that would have been a great way to really hit home the idea of how they're really in over their heads, especially if they'd cut the opening credits of the pilot and focus on the captain and the other high ranking redshirts like normal (you know, the ship's captain recruiting Tom instead of whoever becomes captain after they're killed). It's one thing to have a person who has reached the captain rank in the captain's chair. The situation may be grim, but they at least know what they're doing. But put someone who wasn't ready for the center seat in it, and you've just added a whole new level of uncertainty.
 
Realistically I think they'd all have died but I'm a fan of happy endings so I'm glad none of the major characters went, I liked them all.
 
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