If There's a New Trek TV Show Then Which Universe Will They Set It In?
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A new series may or may not be connected with the Abrams films. Why couldn't it just be its own thing? There have been at least three different versions of Sherlock Holmes produced by different people over the last few years.
By "Prime Universe," do you mean the "Berman-Trek universe?" If so, no, Berman Trek is finished on television and there's no chance it's ever coming back. Which is fine by me; Trek needs a breath of fresh air.
A new series may or may not be connected with the Abrams films. Why couldn't it just be its own thing? There have been at least three different versions of Sherlock Holmes produced by different people over the last few years.
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I think a new series would continue in the JJverse but it'll stand on its own the same way TNG did with TOS. it doesn't make sense for the writers or producers to return to the prime verse. It ties their hands with everything that has happened already.
NuTrek doesn't have to do research with TNG and DS9 to be sure they're not contradicting Cannon. Or at least not as often.
I think a new series would continue in the JJverse but it'll stand on its own the same way TNG did with TOS. it doesn't make sense for the writers or producers to return to the prime verse. It ties their hands with everything that has happened already.
NuTrek doesn't have to do research with TNG and DS9 to be sure they're not contradicting Cannon. Or at least not as often.
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If they set it in the future (say, the 25th century), then it doesn't really matter which universe they set it in. But since a new TV series would probably be produced by CBS (who own the TV rights) rather than Paramount (who own the movie rights), I can't see them making any overt references to the Abramsverse unless the two studios work out some kind of deal.
If they set it in the future (say, the 25th century), then it doesn't really matter which universe they set it in. But since a new TV series would probably be produced by CBS (who own the TV rights) rather than Paramount (who own the movie rights), I can't see them making any overt references to the Abramsverse unless the two studios work out some kind of deal.
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It's very possible for another company to buy the rights from CBS. If they don't anticipate doing another show they it serves them better to sell it. or maybe "lease" it out for a decade or so. I'm sure that's possible.
I wouldn't mind seeing fox buy the rights and put it on FX
It's very possible for another company to buy the rights from CBS. If they don't anticipate doing another show they it serves them better to sell it. or maybe "lease" it out for a decade or so. I'm sure that's possible.
I wouldn't mind seeing fox buy the rights and put it on FX
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The Prime Universe, set in the 2380s onwards. The pilot would see the new crew saving Romulus.
Either that or in the 2340s/50s during the Cardassian Wars.
The Prime Universe, set in the 2380s onwards. The pilot would see the new crew saving Romulus.
Either that or in the 2340s/50s during the Cardassian Wars.
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If it is TV I would expect the Prime universe. Uncertain if it would be Post Nemesis or some other era.
If it is TV I would expect the Prime universe. Uncertain if it would be Post Nemesis or some other era.
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If a new Trek series is set in the Prime Universe, I don't think it has to be set way after Nemesis. In fact, there is no reason why it can't be set during the time of TNG, DS9, or Voyager, Nemesis, or right after Nemesis. Federation space is big and so is the Alpha Quadrant. Just as long as there isn't a storyline or proclaimed factoid that goes against the canon (ex: an episode where we learn that the Enterprise D was destroyed by the Romulans and the new series ship needs to rescue the Enterprise crew from a Romulan prison). If they can have more than one episode in the NCIS universe and CSI universe, then why can't they have a new Trek series be set in the same time as one of the other series' or movies?
The one exception to this can be if the new show was set in the time of the Dominion War. While I'm sure not 100% of Starfleet ships were sent to fight against the Dominion, you'd have to explain why your ship was chosen to do (i.e. your mission is more important). Or else you have to have your ship fight in the war, but we've "already been there, done that" with the Defiant.
If a new Trek series is set in the Prime Universe, I don't think it has to be set way after Nemesis. In fact, there is no reason why it can't be set during the time of TNG, DS9, or Voyager, Nemesis, or right after Nemesis. Federation space is big and so is the Alpha Quadrant. Just as long as there isn't a storyline or proclaimed factoid that goes against the canon (ex: an episode where we learn that the Enterprise D was destroyed by the Romulans and the new series ship needs to rescue the Enterprise crew from a Romulan prison). If they can have more than one episode in the NCIS universe and CSI universe, then why can't they have a new Trek series be set in the same time as one of the other series' or movies?
The one exception to this can be if the new show was set in the time of the Dominion War. While I'm sure not 100% of Starfleet ships were sent to fight against the Dominion, you'd have to explain why your ship was chosen to do (i.e. your mission is more important). Or else you have to have your ship fight in the war, but we've "already been there, done that" with the Defiant.
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I don't really get the big attraction to setting a new show near or around the same time as TNG/DS9/VOY. TNG jumped forward 80 years ahead of what was then the "current" time in the TOS movies. By doing so they freed themselves of any potential continuity issues that might have cropped up by setting the series in or around the same time as the movies, and they were free to do their own thing. Any prospective TV show that isn't a reboot should do the same, IMO. Jump forward to the 2460s (seems to be a good decade for new Trek shows), put a new crew on a new Enterprise, and go from there.
I don't really get the big attraction to setting a new show near or around the same time as TNG/DS9/VOY. TNG jumped forward 80 years ahead of what was then the "current" time in the TOS movies. By doing so they freed themselves of any potential continuity issues that might have cropped up by setting the series in or around the same time as the movies, and they were free to do their own thing. Any prospective TV show that isn't a reboot should do the same, IMO. Jump forward to the 2460s (seems to be a good decade for new Trek shows), put a new crew on a new Enterprise, and go from there.
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The problem I see with jumping ahead another century is the plausibility of their level of technology and the rambling technobabble that would follow, with new systems and devices being used to solve issues without any real drama for the crew. That being said I'd love to see how the 3D consoles (mentioned in "The Visitor") work.
The problem I see with jumping ahead another century is the plausibility of their level of technology and the rambling technobabble that would follow, with new systems and devices being used to solve issues without any real drama for the crew. That being said I'd love to see how the 3D consoles (mentioned in "The Visitor") work.
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Technobabble is not contingent on the time period. It's just a tired old trope that doesn't need to be carried on. ENT was pretty good about avoiding excessive technobabble, but that was because the writers chose not to use it, not because their technology wasn't as advanced as it was in the 24th century shows.
Technobabble is not contingent on the time period. It's just a tired old trope that doesn't need to be carried on. ENT was pretty good about avoiding excessive technobabble, but that was because the writers chose not to use it, not because their technology wasn't as advanced as it was in the 24th century shows.
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Like you said: just jump forward in time a bit and it won't matter. Jump forward far enough and viewers won't be able to tell which universe it is!
A throwaway line referring to an unspecified collapse or disaster would suffice to explain any apparent contradictions with technology. "Sir, is it true that before the Bynar Wave we used to be able to do this with the push of a button?"
"According to the records that survived, ensign. It's a hard lesson, endorsing the use of an interstellar doomsday device no matter who the invaders were. Still, as long as we kept warp drive...."
"Yes, sir!"
Like you said: just jump forward in time a bit and it won't matter. Jump forward far enough and viewers won't be able to tell which universe it is!
A throwaway line referring to an unspecified collapse or disaster would suffice to explain any apparent contradictions with technology. "Sir, is it true that before the Bynar Wave we used to be able to do this with the push of a button?"
"According to the records that survived, ensign. It's a hard lesson, endorsing the use of an interstellar doomsday device no matter who the invaders were. Still, as long as we kept warp drive...."
"Yes, sir!"
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How many threads have we had on this, now?
Prime 'verse Trek was run into the ground. Enterprise started with 12 million viewers and ended with 2. Before that, Voyager was under threat of cancellation and had a fraction of TNG's peak viewership. Common sense says it's bad business to try and resurrect it. It's as likely as a return to Smallville's version of the Superman mythos.
And even if by some miracle they did do it, fans would just latch onto inconsequential continuity errors or a change in pace, style or feel and blindly insist it wasn't the Prime Universe anyway, just like many did with Enterprise or the Prime Universe elements of the new movies. You're never going to be happy.
If you really care about what happens after all those series', read the novels. They're written to a consistently higher standard than the episodes were, IMO.
Oh, and there's this forthcoming fan film you might like. It's set ten years after Voyager's return:
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgRJWBB12GA[/YT]
(but ironically, Facebook fans won't stop moaning about Chekov's age)
How many threads have we had on this, now?
Prime 'verse Trek was run into the ground. Enterprise started with 12 million viewers and ended with 2. Before that, Voyager was under threat of cancellation and had a fraction of TNG's peak viewership. Common sense says it's bad business to try and resurrect it. It's as likely as a return to Smallville's version of the Superman mythos.
And even if by some miracle they did do it, fans would just latch onto inconsequential continuity errors or a change in pace, style or feel and blindly insist it wasn't the Prime Universe anyway, just like many did with Enterprise or the Prime Universe elements of the new movies. You're never going to be happy.
If you really care about what happens after all those series', read the novels. They're written to a consistently higher standard than the episodes were, IMO.
Oh, and there's this forthcoming fan film you might like. It's set ten years after Voyager's return:
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgRJWBB12GA[/YT]
(but ironically, Facebook fans won't stop moaning about Chekov's age)
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I think the writers/producers of the theoretical new series would choose whichever universe (or new universe) works best with their premise. I don't think you can connect popularity or age with a particular universe. But I'm hoping for prime.
I think the writers/producers of the theoretical new series would choose whichever universe (or new universe) works best with their premise. I don't think you can connect popularity or age with a particular universe. But I'm hoping for prime.
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The fact that there were some bad viewership numbers with Voyager and Enterprise doesn't mean it is the fault of the Prime Universe. I think it had to do with Trek overload on TV and some lackluster writing of the shows (of course the studios stifled how far they could go with Voyager). I personally would like to see a new series set during / after Nemesis. We can explore new things without the risk of upsetting the canon. Plus, they could bring in characters that we saw on TNG, DS9, & Voyager if they wanted to (as guest stars).
The fact that there were some bad viewership numbers with Voyager and Enterprise doesn't mean it is the fault of the Prime Universe. I think it had to do with Trek overload on TV and some lackluster writing of the shows (of course the studios stifled how far they could go with Voyager). I personally would like to see a new series set during / after Nemesis. We can explore new things without the risk of upsetting the canon. Plus, they could bring in characters that we saw on TNG, DS9, & Voyager if they wanted to (as guest stars).
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By far the most interesting "new TV series" idea I've seen in a while comes from Bryan Fuller and Brian Singer. The premise: the adventures of the U.S.S. Reliant... with Angela Bassett playing the Captain and Rosario Dawson as her First Officer.
I gotta say... I would watch the shit out of that.
By far the most interesting "new TV series" idea I've seen in a while comes from Bryan Fuller and Brian Singer. The premise: the adventures of the U.S.S. Reliant... with Angela Bassett playing the Captain and Rosario Dawson as her First Officer.
I gotta say... I would watch the shit out of that.
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putting it about 50 years in the future from the current movies allows them to bring back Shatner as Kirk. He isn't dead in this timeline. As well as Chekov and Uhrura. Quinto could add a little age with make up and still play Spock since vulcans don't age as quickly. (and sadly, I'm not sure Nimoy will be with us too much longer.) Colonel Worf and Tuvok are also options although Russ is getting older than he should look at that time. I'm sure we could pass Patrick Stewart off as a young Jean-Luc. God knows he's looked the same his entire life. lol
putting it about 50 years in the future from the current movies allows them to bring back Shatner as Kirk. He isn't dead in this timeline. As well as Chekov and Uhrura. Quinto could add a little age with make up and still play Spock since vulcans don't age as quickly. (and sadly, I'm not sure Nimoy will be with us too much longer.) Colonel Worf and Tuvok are also options although Russ is getting older than he should look at that time. I'm sure we could pass Patrick Stewart off as a young Jean-Luc. God knows he's looked the same his entire life. lol
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Personally, I don't think continuing the same timeline matters. If a character mentions Kirk is passing, of what real relevance is it whether it's the Kirk who saved Nibiru, the Kirk who fought the Gorn or some other Kirk?
Whatever the cause, it became unpopular. THAT is why it's done for. And who is going to bring in guest stars from unpopular, poorly-rated shows or a flop movie? It's not exactly a ratings-boosting idea, as much as we Trekkies might enjoy seeing Tuvok or Ezri again.
Personally, I don't think continuing the same timeline matters. If a character mentions Kirk is passing, of what real relevance is it whether it's the Kirk who saved Nibiru, the Kirk who fought the Gorn or some other Kirk?
