If the UFP was conquered...

[JirinPanthosa]

We've seen glimpses of the way the Dominion rules people in the Gamma Quadrant. After they broke down the AQ's will to resist it'd probably be similar. Most planets have never seen them. They expect that if they ever see the Gem'Hadar they will be destroyed, but know if they don't piss off the Dominion they will be left alone. Civilizations that have pissed off the Dominion have either been wiped out or left with horrible pandemics.

The Founders don't care about solids and their only interest in them is that order is maintained at all costs.

 

[Kilana2]

As to the Romulans: Romulan doctrines would be enforced everywhere.

Instead of a Stasi like in the former GDR there would be Tal Shiar members everywhere hidden in plain sight.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

We've seen glimpses of the way the Dominion rules people in the Gamma Quadrant. After they broke down the AQ's will to resist it'd probably be similar. Most planets have never seen them. They expect that if they ever see the Gem'Hadar they will be destroyed, but know if they don't piss off the Dominion they will be left alone. Civilizations that have pissed off the Dominion have either been wiped out or left with horrible pandemics.

The Founders don't care about solids and their only interest in them is that order is maintained at all costs.

But the vorta do! And i believe that they were genetical uplifted to have the same sense of order as the founders and dominion subjects will be left alone only after the restructurising of their society!

 

[Unimatrix Q]

As to the Romulans: Romulan doctrines would be enforced everywhere.

Instead of a Stasi like in the former GDR there would be Tal Shiar members everywhere hidden in plain sight.

Would the population be living in slave camps or would it be a dictatorship?

 

[Kilana2]

As to the Romulans: Romulan doctrines would be enforced everywhere.

Instead of a Stasi like in the former GDR there would be Tal Shiar members everywhere hidden in plain sight.

Would the population be living in slave camps or would it be a dictatorship?

I guess a dictatorship. Slave camps sounds very Mirror Universe like, with Klingon-Cardassion Alliance as occupying force.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

As to the Romulans: Romulan doctrines would be enforced everywhere.

Instead of a Stasi like in the former GDR there would be Tal Shiar members everywhere hidden in plain sight.

Would the population be living in slave camps or would it be a dictatorship?

I guess a dictatorship. Slave camps sounds very Mirror Universe like, with Klingon-Cardassion Alliance as occupying force.

Would they still have food replicators? What would romulan laws be like?

 

[Kilana2]

Would they still have food replicators? What would romulan laws be like?

Replicators? Romulans wouldn't waste time with preparing foodstuff the old fashioned way. But they may restrict access for insubordinate subjects. I fear that children would have to suffer for their parent's insubordination.

They would take whatever resources and technology they want. And they would try to consolidate their power.

Death penalty becomes business as usual. They would be busy with pursuing enemies of the state...

As it was mentioned before....The Romulans would have a hard time to conquer just a single UFP world. At least as a single power. But they would be able to wreak havoc among the UFP worlds. Leading to war.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

The Dominion may have had a chance had Cardassia been constantly arming AND the wormhole was open but that was never a possible threat given the already existing super weapons Federation science had available.

And yet the Federation only won becuase they had the combined might of the Klingons and Romulans to help them fight the war and the wormhole was closed off.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Would they still have food replicators? What would romulan laws be like?

Replicators? Romulans wouldn't waste time with preparing foodstuff the old fashioned way. But they may restrict access for insubordinate subjects. I fear that children would have to suffer for their parent's insubordination.

They would take whatever resources and technology they want. And they would try to consolidate their power.

Death penalty becomes business as usual. They would be busy with pursuing enemies of the state...

As it was mentioned before....The Romulans would have a hard time to conquer just a single UFP world. At least as a single power. But they would be able to wreak havoc among the UFP worlds. Leading to war.

How much freedom would a former ufp citizen have? What would be forbidden? What would be allowed? What would be a typical day on occupied earth for a nonpartisan be like?

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Would be interesting, because this isn't discussed very much!

 

[Nightdiamond]

About the Romulans: I wonder how would they enslave an entire planetary population?
What would happen to the cities? How would they control the life of their new acquired slaves?

Speaking of this, does anyone remember the plot from Unification where the Romulans were going to try to conquer Vulcan ---with only 2000 troops?

The whole thing about enslaving an entire planet doesn't seem as realistic when you look closely at it.

The only race I can see pulling this off is the Borg, for obvious reasons.

Although the Cardassians did manage to do this to Bajor.


The Dominion might be able to do it because they can (possibly) produce the troops to do it, and they have experience doing it.

And that's maybe. Weyoun speculated they would have to eradicate most of the population to subdue earth.

And other examples show the Dominion simply destroying entire civilizations to send a message.

So for the Romulans to do it--it seems unlikely. The typical military occupation and suppression, then indoctrinate the masses so they accept rulership seems to be the rule.

The whole concept simply isn't fool proof.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

About the Romulans: I wonder how would they enslave an entire planetary population?
What would happen to the cities? How would they control the life of their new acquired slaves?

Speaking of this, does anyone remember the plot from Unification where the Romulans were going to try to conquer Vulcan ---with only 2000 troops?

The whole thing about enslaving an entire planet doesn't seem as realistic when you look closely at it.

The only race I can see pulling this off is the Borg, for obvious reasons.

Although the Cardassians did manage to do this to Bajor.


The Dominion might be able to do it because they can (possibly) produce the troops to do it, and they have experience doing it.

And that's maybe. Weyoun speculated they would have to eradicate most of the population to subdue earth.

And other examples show the Dominion simply destroying entire civilizations to send a message.

So for the Romulans to do it--it seems unlikely. The typical military occupation and suppression, then indoctrinate the masses so they accept rulership seems to be the rule.

The whole concept simply isn't fool proof.

How big does an occupation force need to be to enslave and control an entire planetary population? How would they do it?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

You don't need your troops to outnumber the people, you just need the people completely outgunned. It's incredibly hard to control domestic terrorism especially with 24th century technology.

The Bajorans drove off the Cardassians by making Bajor too costly to hold, but Bajor had the advantage that the Cardassians were more willing to leave than to destroy the planet. Nobody would have that kind of advantage over the Dominion. The Dominion would have weapons of mass destruction pointed at every major city, ready to turn it to vapor at the slightest hint of terrorism.

 

[Ithekro]

I am under the impression that the Romulans plan was to slip onto Vulcan quietly. Spock's message was that they were to welcome the Romulans in terms of unification, and thus no defenses would be prepared, as most people would at least somewhat trust Spock. The Romulans probably also had people in place already on Vulcan like they did back in Archer's time. Meaning all they really needed to do was stage a coup and return power back to the Romulan supported Vulcan High Command, and thus overturn, at least partially, the teaching of Surak. This would bring the Vulcan military back into power and an entrenched Romulan army supported by the planetary government, means the Federation loses an ally/member. Romulas supports the new government, which joins in alliance with the Roumlan Star Empire, bringing about unification, under Romulas terms.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

How much freedom would the average citizen have? What would be a typical day for them look like? Would they still have time for themself?

 

[Xerxes1979]

The Dominion may have had a chance had Cardassia been constantly arming AND the wormhole was open but that was never a possible threat given the already existing super weapons Federation science had available.

And yet the Federation only won becuase they had the combined might of the Klingons and Romulans to help them fight the war and the wormhole was closed off.

An unrealistic narrative contrary to established facts of the Trek universe.

Dominion ship building and material quality was a lesser quality to Starfleet.

Cardassia is stated as being a resource poor power. The Federation is most definitely not. Despite this they were able to construct thousands of warships with what they had.

Why do you believe Federation could not vastly outmatch this using its own industrial replication and automated shipyard facilities?

The wormhole at any time could have been collapsed, mined or the entire region of space on either end could have been obliterated or made non-traversable by warp though technologies already shown in the various tv series.

Also the Federation is a known time traveling power only limited by the temporal prime directive. Something most likely that would have not been effect in a existential conflict.

If the Dominion had such abilities the story arc of DS9 would not have ended the way it did because any mistakes would be erased. Timeline alteration without paradox is possible and featured in many stories.

A.I. > Jem'hedar.

Data, the Emergency Command Hologram and the M-5 all have better combat records than the drug addicted drones and the later two can be massed produced. All the talk of losing an attrition battle through combat deaths is non-sense.

Lastly the Founders are not gods. The female changling seemed rather dull and ignorant of both technological and tactical ideas. Odo has limits and flaws. He is not a super being with flawless recall and perception.

There are apparently limits to the changlings bio-mimicry. Fake Bashir was an able doctor but if his entire being could be duplicated the entire Federation could have been subverted in a matter weeks through the compromising of key political and scientific figures. Clearly there are limits to knowledge copied and its dissemination via the Great Link.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

As of Gem'Hadar it was pretty clear the Dominion had superior weapons technology and it was only after that that the Federation's scientific minds started bringing out their better armements.

The Dominion has faster ship building capability than the Federation, not to mention they can replace troops faster and more easily than the Federation.

You can't really call time travel an option as if time travel was really as accessible all the time as it was in time travel episodes, somebody would go back and change history every few days.

 

[Nightdiamond]

I am under the impression that the Romulans plan was to slip onto Vulcan quietly. Spock's message was that they were to welcome the Romulans in terms of unification, and thus no defenses would be prepared, as most people would at least somewhat trust Spock. The Romulans probably also had people in place already on Vulcan like they did back in Archer's time. Meaning all they really needed to do was stage a coup and return power back to the Romulan supported Vulcan High Command, and thus overturn, at least partially, the teaching of Surak. This would bring the Vulcan military back into power and an entrenched Romulan army supported by the planetary government, means the Federation loses an ally/member. Romulas supports the new government, which joins in alliance with the Roumlan Star Empire, bringing about unification, under Romulas terms.

That's a good explanation, and even if this was the case, it's hard to believe they can do this with just 2000 troops.

There just seems to be too many problems with this plan.

-Spock was spotted on Romulus and was considered AWOL and under suspicion, so the Federation had a huge reason not to trust what he said.

-- imagine a hostile country sending only 2000 troops to Texas to support the separatist movement and take over the government and declare it a separate country.

And then when you use the same dialog Sela did, it seems even more odd;

PICARD: Can you possibly believe that the Federation will not immediately intervene?

SELA: Of course it will. And we're fully prepared for it. But we'll be there. Entrenched.

2000 soldiers--an entire planet/system--it strains belief a little.


RE: Dominion vs Fed war capabilities-

The Dominion's ability to build ships faster was always seen as an advantage the Fed didn't have. For whatever reason.

Even their ability to rebuild their shipyards was seen as being superior to the Fed.

But the Fed technical skills were top notch. I think that helped kept the war somewhat balanced.

But the Romulans sudden entry into the war was what mainly turned the tide.

 

[xvicente]

1. the Dominion

who?

2. The Romulans

A Resistence underground movement would spring. After some months of intelligence operations the Romulans dissolve it. The rest of the population would be happy ever after drinking Romulan Ale and cheese.

3. The Klingons

A Resistence underground movement would spring. After several years of honorable knifefights the Klingons dissolve it. The rest of the human population slowly declines to disentery caused by gach and bloodwine. Plum trees go extinct. The Klingons extinct themselves in more honorable knifefights and cirrhosis. The Moon explodes. The reamining humans eventually repopulate Earth and evolve into the lizards from "Threshold".

 

[wulfio]

Romulus does still exist. I don't understand the OP.