If the UFP was conquered...

[Unimatrix Q]

what would life be like for the average Federation Citizen on Earth, if the Conqueror was

1 The Dominion (if they decided not to blow up Earth directly after Victory)

2 The Romulan Star Empire (Romulus still exists)

3 The Klingon Empire

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

what would life be like for the average Federation Citizen on Earth, if the Conqueror was

1 The Dominion (if they decided not to blow up Earth directly after Victory)

Not entirely certain about this other than Martial Law and genetic experimentation.

2 The Romulan Star Empire (Romulus still exists)

Slave labour and psychological experimentation.

3 The Klingon Empire

Slave labour and forced fighting games.

 

[Kilana2]

1. The Dominion

Weyoun ruling the world with the Neverland Ranch as seat of power . Freedom of speech abolished. Dissidents desintegrated. Jem' Hadar troups everywhere. Changelings replacing the Federation president and his/her staff.... Starfleet is destroyed, its ships and resources confiscated. Promising people are cloned, loyality included into their genetical profile. Weyoun recruits the help of a certain Crell Moset........ Horror, I fear.

2. The Romulans

Taking their hands on every federation technology to secure their supremacy. Tal Shiar presence everywhere: Paris, Berlin, New York.

3. The Klingons simply take the resources they want. They have to fight uprisings, but they will prevail. Enslavement follows. Sick, frail and old people were dealt with... There is no need for the Klingons to keep them alive. They don't contribute to their wealth, they just squander resources.


Dark prospects, indeed.

 

[Mage]

I don't think the UFP can be conquered. Wiped out, perhaps.

To conquer so many worlds, you'd need a occupying force of such enormous size, I doubt any of those mentioned could accomplish that for a long time.
There this quaint notion that taking over Earth means taking over the Federation. But look at the Dominion War. They took over Betazed, a whole planet. Didn't do anything for the UFP as a whole. No, taking over the UFP and contolling ALL its memberworlds is impossible, due to its size.

Wiping it out...... By destroying several key worlds, you could take down the infrastructure that is the UFP, and there for essentially destroying the political entity that is the UFP.... sure. I mean, a few starship loaded with photons can glass a world, so that's easy really.

But actually occupying the entire Federation? That's impossible.

 

[hux]

The only way I see the UFP being conquered is if we were made docile or genetically modified to be obedient in some way so in that respect, only the Borg and the Founders would succeed. Other species might give us a bloody nose but unless they're willing to put the effort in to control us, I don't think we'd be on our knees for long.

Then again, if it's just one planet in the UFP, then the conquering species might have the resources to contain that one planet.....but surely the other UFP's would intervene.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

1) Dominion

For the first few decades everybody constantly tries to rebel. This results in a few planets being completely eradicated. After that, some planets are left alone just with a set of rules they have to obey under the treat of being destroyed. Others are left with their infrastructure completely demolished, possibly with horrible genetically engineered diseases. Ferenginar becomes the most powerful planet in the galaxy because they will do whatever the Dominion says, never pose any kind of threat, but they will take charge of commerce for the entire area.

2) Romulans

Military dictatorship. All freedoms taken away, people constantly in fear of being dragged away to prison. All industry servicing the military.

3) Klingons

Are we talking TOS Klingons or TNG Klingons? TOS Klingons would be the same as the Romulans. TNG Klingons, they'd come and blow up the infrastructure, then come back and raid planets once in a while, but mostly be hands off.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

1. The Dominion

Weyoun ruling the world with the Neverland Ranch as seat of power . Freedom of speech abolished. Dissidents desintegrated. Jem' Hadar troups everywhere. Changelings replacing the Federation president and his/her staff.... Starfleet is destroyed, its ships and resources confiscated. Promising people are cloned, loyality included into their genetical profile. Weyoun recruits the help of a certain Crell Moset........ Horror, I fear.

2. The Romulans

Taking their hands on every federation technology to secure their supremacy. Tal Shiar presence everywhere: Paris, Berlin, New York.

3. The Klingons simply take the resources they want. They have to fight uprisings, but they will prevail. Enslavement follows. Sick, frail and old people were dealt with... There is no need for the Klingons to keep them alive. They don't contribute to their wealth, they just squander resources.


Dark prospects, indeed.

I really like this idea with the Neverland Ranch!

For the Klingons: Would the population still live in their homes and what would happen to the cities?

Would it be possible to enslave a whole Population? How would it be controlled?

Another Thing: Wouldn't it be dishonorable for the Klingons to kill these people?

 

[Unimatrix Q]

1) Dominion

For the first few decades everybody constantly tries to rebel. This results in a few planets being completely eradicated. After that, some planets are left alone just with a set of rules they have to obey under the treat of being destroyed. Others are left with their infrastructure completely demolished, possibly with horrible genetically engineered diseases. Ferenginar becomes the most powerful planet in the galaxy because they will do whatever the Dominion says, never pose any kind of threat, but they will take charge of commerce for the entire area.

2) Romulans

Military dictatorship. All freedoms taken away, people constantly in fear of being dragged away to prison. All industry servicing the military.

3) Klingons

Are we talking TOS Klingons or TNG Klingons? TOS Klingons would be the same as the Romulans. TNG Klingons, they'd come and blow up the infrastructure, then come back and raid planets once in a while, but mostly be hands off.

I would say, let us use the 24th century for this speculation.

What would the Rules and Laws of the Dominion be like?

 

[Kilana2]

I really like this idea with the Neverland Ranch!

For the Klingons: Would the population still live in their homes and what would happen to the cities?

Would it be possible to enslave a whole Population? How would it be controlled?

Another Thing: Wouldn't it be dishonorable for the Klingons to kill these people?

When I originally answered the questions I missed one point: the question was "What if the UFP was conquered....". My answers were more like "What if Earth was conquered". So I was on the wrong track.
The UFP itself isn't easily conquered. They would lose some of the weaker planets, but they would try to win them back, at least later when the disaster is avoided. As to the Klingons: they simply would take the resources they need - with force if necessary - only honorless rogues might kill indiscriminately.
The UFP almost fell during the Destiny events. The losses were immense. The Borg almost managed something, the other powers weren't able to so far.
Breen, Cardassians, Romulans, Klingons and Dominion Forces united against the UFP could be a different thing.... But I don't think that such an alliance is likely.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

I really like this idea with the Neverland Ranch!

For the Klingons: Would the population still live in their homes and what would happen to the cities?

Would it be possible to enslave a whole Population? How would it be controlled?

Another Thing: Wouldn't it be dishonorable for the Klingons to kill these people?

When I originally answered the questions I missed one point: the question was "What if the UFP was conquered....". My answers were more like "What if Earth was conquered". So I was on the wrong track.
The UFP itself isn't easily conquered. They would lose some of the weaker planets, but they would try to win them back, at least later when the disaster is avoided. As to the Klingons: they simply would take the resources they need - with force if necessary - only honorless rogues might kill indiscriminately.
The UFP almost fell during the Destiny events. The losses were immense. The Borg almost managed something, the other powers weren't able to so far.
Breen, Cardassians, Romulans, Klingons and Dominion Forces united against the UFP could be a different thing.... But I don't think that such an alliance is likely.

You didn't miss a point!
I thought by asking this Question especially on
Earth and the Federation Core Worlds.

 

[Kilana2]

The events in David Mack's were frightening enough... No more such massacres, please.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

The events in David Mack's were frightening enough... No more such massacres, please.

Did you mean the Mirror Universe Novels?

 

[Kilana2]

The events in David Mack's were frightening enough... No more such massacres, please.

Did you mean the Mirror Universe Novels?

Sorry, I meant the Destiny trilogy. I've posted too fast and forgot to check up.... The MU novels are violent enough, especially what has been done to some of the Voyager characters. Voyager haters would be amused......

The Destiny Borg incursion has put the UFP in its place. But in the end the UFP survived.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

The events in David Mack's were frightening enough... No more such massacres, please.

Did you mean the Mirror Universe Novels?

Sorry, I meant the Destiny trilogy. I've posted too fast and forgot to check up.... The MU novels are violent enough, especially what has been done to some of the Voyager characters. Voyager haters would be amused......

The Destiny Borg incursion has put the UFP in its place. But in the end the UFP survived.

The Borg were too much of a stereotypical evil for me in these novels, as you may know from my other thread!

 

[Nightdiamond]

The Klingons are feudal society, so the UFP might be divided into territories and given to various Klingon Houses.

Confuse them and break down resistance.

And then, based on Errand of mercy, and Way of the Warrior, they might execute all the top leaders and set up some type of overseer.

After that, they let the population exist normally, and rule from afar, but they'd probably never let the UHP have their own military.


If the UFP was conquered by the Dominion, one worry would be the Cardassians, based on what happened to Bajor.

They would love to get their hands on Federation territory.

Ironically, they would need the Dominion to keep an eye on Cardassians so they wouldn't go too far.

And yet even more ironic, Dukat explained to Weyoun why he shouldn't just eliminate earth's population when it's better to force them to admit that they were defeated.


The Romulans--it's hard to pinpoint them, since we got so little on them. Freedom of speech gone. Slavery (based on Nemesis). Spies everywhere.

The ironic thing is the UFP had the hardest time defending against the Klingons than the other two powers.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

The Klingons are feudal society, so the UFP might be divided into territories and given to various Klingon Houses.

Confuse them and break down resistance.

And then, based on Errand of mercy, and Way of the Warrior, they might execute all the top leaders and set up some type of overseer.

After that, they let the population exist normally, and rule from afar, but they'd probably never let the UHP have their own military.


If the UFP was conquered by the Dominion, one worry would be the Cardassians, based on what happened to Bajor.

They would love to get their hands on Federation territory.

Ironically, they would need the Dominion to keep an eye on Cardassians so they wouldn't go too far.

And yet even more ironic, Dukat explained to Weyoun why he shouldn't just eliminate earth's population when it's better to force them to admit that they were defeated.


The Romulans--it's hard to pinpoint them, since we got so little on them. Freedom of speech gone. Slavery (based on Nemesis). Spies everywhere.

The ironic thing is the UFP had the hardest time defending against the Klingons than the other two powers.

I also think that it would be the most logical thing that the Klingons would divide the UFP Territory among their noble houses and that they would rule from afar!

About the Romulans: I wonder how would they enslave an entire planetary population?
What would happen to the cities? How would they control the life of their new acquired slaves?

 

[Kilana2]

About the Romulans: I wonder how would they enslave an entire planetary population?
What would happen to the cities? How would they control the life of their new acquired slaves?

With newly developed/acquired fancy Tal Shiar gadgets, whatever they may look like.

Most of the conquering powers would keep key personnel alive: especially scientists who are ready to do research and throwing aside ethical issues.
Would there be resistance on the planets? I think so. And unethical scientists would be considered as collaborators.

 

[at Quark's]

What would the Rules and Laws of the Dominion be like?

I've always had the feeling the Dominion leaves those worlds that they're not interested in for some reason, or do not view as a threat, largely untouched. Perhaps a Vorta overseer, some taxes to be paid, that sort of thing. But no interference in the daily running of things. For the type of worlds belonging to that category (Ferenginar perhaps), things wouldn't probably change too much.

However, if you are (or were) considered a threat (like that species in the quickening), or if you have something they can use -- a rare resource or a desirable genetic makeup, say -- they may act ruthlessly and simply do that which they think would benefit them. Exterminating the population, or evacuting it to another world to take control of their home world directly, that sort of thing. I think most of the UFP core worlds would fit this category.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

What would the Rules and Laws of the Dominion be like?

I've always had the feeling the Dominion leaves those worlds that they're not interested in for some reason, or do not view as a threat, largely untouched. Perhaps a Vorta overseer, some taxes to be paid, that sort of thing. But no interference in the daily running of things. For the type of worlds belonging to that category (Ferenginar perhaps), things wouldn't probably change too much.

However, if you are (or were) considered a threat (like that species in the quickening), or if you have something they can use -- a rare resource or a desirable genetic makeup, say -- they may act ruthlessly and simply do that which they think would benefit them. Exterminating the population, or evacuting it to another world to take control of their home world directly, that sort of thing. I think most of the UFP core worlds would fit this category.

Rurigan said in "Shadowplay" about the Dominion that they destroyed his whole way of life. I don't believe the Yaderans to be aggressive or dangerous for the Dominion. What we know about the founders is that they have a faible for Order. Could it be that they have ordered, regulated and systemized every single detail about their Subjects life, similar to how Diane Carey described life on Karemma in her Novellization of "The Search"?

Would they do the same on Federation Worlds?

 

[Xerxes1979]

I don't accept that any of those three powers could materially beat the Federation in a war.

The Dominion may have had a chance had Cardassia been constantly arming AND the wormhole was open but that was never a possible threat given the already existing super weapons Federation science had available.

If the Dominion took the long way their technology would be seventy years out of date by the time they got to the Alpha quadrant.

The Dominion and its weapon science is lame and very slowly advancing over 10,000 years to the same point which humanity with Vulcan help reached in four hundred.

The Iconians and Tkon did better.