Ambivalent as a child, but very much continuing the mission home as an older, Starfleet officer in 'Shattered'. Even with the captain and main crew gone. Her mother and father were from the Alpha Quadrant, why wouldn't she as she grows up want to be back with her family?
If The Journey Did Take Decades...
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Ambivalent as a child, but very much continuing the mission home as an older, Starfleet officer in 'Shattered'. Even with the captain and main crew gone. Her mother and father were from the Alpha Quadrant, why wouldn't she as she grows up want to be back with her family?
Because her family is on Voyager. They are the only thing she has ever known. Her father is just that in name only to her. She has no feelings fornhim because she never met him or any other blood relative
That would have made a good story. That they eventually told a version of in Enterprise. Voyager meets distant future Voyager. Though also would be tough not to make it seem redundant with Children of Time.
I think most of them would want to continue home. Besides that they’d be indoctrinated to Federation culture. The desire to rough it and start from scratch completely cut off from your heritage is rare when there aren’t better opportunities for your family in the new than the old place. I suppose maybe there would be Maquis influence there.
The more likely scenario is if they met a new Federation that openly welcomed them in.
I think most of them would want to continue home. Besides that they’d be indoctrinated to Federation culture. The desire to rough it and start from scratch completely cut off from your heritage is rare when there aren’t better opportunities for your family in the new than the old place. I suppose maybe there would be Maquis influence there.
The more likely scenario is if they met a new Federation that openly welcomed them in.
In Timeless and Endgame sure seemed like the Maquis were pardoned due to their Voyager service. And even if they weren’t, if you were accused of a crime, would you rather spend the rest of your life alone on a deserted island, or go home, serve your sentence and be free?
Or, another option I haven’t seen brought up. Maybe their time on Voyager was considered time served.
Naomi didn’t want to go home when she was 6. That doesn’t mean she’d feel the same way when she’s older.
Or, another option I haven’t seen brought up. Maybe their time on Voyager was considered time served.
Naomi didn’t want to go home when she was 6. That doesn’t mean she’d feel the same way when she’s older.
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Not everyone on the ship was human
That’s correct, but what percentage of humans end up making a decision that far removed from their origins, especially after hitting 30, when they are not fully immersed in a different culture, without a compelling economic incentive?
But they would be severely infirm and (perhaps) suffering from senility issues, with whatever offspring that'd all had having to take care of them.
I don't think there is a reason to assume this. They are able to treat so many ailments. They will surely not have the same aging issues that people have today
Admiral Jameson was so old his first Christmas WAS the first Christmas.
Mentally he was sound.
Mentally he was sound.
We know McCoy lived to be 140, but I'm not sure that's really average. It struck me as more something like living to be 100 is today, it can happen, but it is rare.
The Enterprise episode was in fact adapted from an unused Voyager script.
If it's a life sentence, you may be better off living like a king/queen on a deserted island than at home in prison. You don't need to worry about dropping the soap in the shower on a deserted island. Hell, you don't even need to shower on an island.
Yeah, but they couldn't do too much. Though once getting back to Earth they could guest star on a popular 24th century TV show:
Naomi didn't want to go home when she was 6 in "Bliss" because she already was home with her mother, the only family member she remembered, and with a bunch of friends. The only home Naomi knew was on Voyager and she didn't exactly burn with a desire for her home on Voyager to reach Earth and stop travelling.
She was like a child born on a generation ship and knowing that it would reach the target star decades in the future. She would have no desire to speed up or lengthen the voyage or divert it to a new destination, because arrival would decades in the to her distant future.
Or she is like a child who has lived with her parents on a cruise ship for as long as she can remember. To her the cruise ship is her home that visits various more or less interesting ports of call. And if her parents plan to retire next year and buy a house somewhere, she expects that her home will moved to her parents' house since home is where her immediate family lives.
How many six year old children have any strong desire for the planet Earth to reach the spot in space that it will reach decades in the future as the Sun orbits the center of the galaxy? Very few, I guess. Even a kid who knows that the Earth moves through space will not be very interested in reaching a particular place in empty space.
So Naomi would not be in any hurry to reach the end of Voyager's voyage, but would not be reluctant to leave the Delta Quadrant and would consider voyaging toward Earth to be the proper goal of her community on Voyager.
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Suppose the voyage took 75 years, then most of the primary crew would have been around 105, some slightly younger, some somewhat older.
Do we have any information how "old"105 would be in the 24th century ? We know O'Brien is told he will yet die an old man at age 140 in his bed, we see McCoy at age 137 being extremely geriatric, so it's safe to assume that 140 is a very advanced age. But 105?
The only example that comes to my mind right now of that age range is that of the Bajoran judge Els Renora (from "Dax"), whom we are told is 100 and she is still active at work (even though she looks distinctly 'late middle age' to me). But she's Bajoran, not human ...
Do we have any information how "old"105 would be in the 24th century ? We know O'Brien is told he will yet die an old man at age 140 in his bed, we see McCoy at age 137 being extremely geriatric, so it's safe to assume that 140 is a very advanced age. But 105?
The only example that comes to my mind right now of that age range is that of the Bajoran judge Els Renora (from "Dax"), whom we are told is 100 and she is still active at work (even though she looks distinctly 'late middle age' to me). But she's Bajoran, not human ...
In the novels there was a human character who was right around the 100 mark (though I think he was 101 or something like that) and he was basically equivalent to someone in their sixties today.
As many have said, I think the ship would have continued, perhaps loosing a few young people who decided it wasn't for them, along perhaps with some older members who wanted to live out their remaining years with their offspring/on a planet.
It would have been fascinating if the series had not ended with them returning home, and every 10 years or so we got a special episode showing progress - what had changed, what had stayed the same. Unworkable in the real world of course with contracts and stuff, but would be cool.
It would have been fascinating if the series had not ended with them returning home, and every 10 years or so we got a special episode showing progress - what had changed, what had stayed the same. Unworkable in the real world of course with contracts and stuff, but would be cool.
He just might be. From Flashback it could be deduced he is 112 years old. Fury states he is 100. Either way, Vulcans can live to be over 200.
Commander Elias Vaughn, and he had a daughter, Prynn Tenmei in her 20's so very virile when he was 70 something, assuming she was conceived naturally.
I suspect the existence of being a 'traveller' would be the identity of new generations, rather than having a loyalty to the Delta Quadrant. Their nationality would be "Voyager", the ship, and their family - those on the ship. For most of them she would be their home 'planet'.
