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If THE CAGE never happens in this timeline...

I believe that when Picard and crew went back into time to help Zefram Cochrane with his warp flight they inadvertently gave him too much knowledge of the future so things became more advanced sooner than they originally had been in the original time line.

Doesn't explain how the TOS Defiant could have appeared, exactly as it was in the original series, in an ENT episode... ;)

Just watch TOS Remastered. Things aren't always as they first appear. ;)
 
I have my own personal canon to make sense of the changes and time line.

I believe that when Picard and crew went back into time to help Zefram Cochrane with his warp flight they inadvertently gave him too much knowledge of the future so things became more advanced sooner than they originally had been in the original time line.

And let's not forget the Temporal Cold War mucking up some of the history on Enterprise.

Let's also not forget the big reset button that was smashed at the end of that particular storyline. Wouldn't be out of line to say that several large chunks of Enterprise never happened prior to the fourth season, thanks to that reset. :D
Only the alien ''nazis'' were eraced! Watch ''STORMFRONT'' again.:vulcan:
 
What happens if QPID never happens in this timeline?

What happens if Threshold never happens?

What happens if Force of Nature never happens?
 
....How will you feel? Personally, I'd be more than a little peeved off if this film erases the very first episode of TOS, which IMHO was one of the best.
It's irrelevant because the film is a reboot anyway and isn't connected to TOS except for the reuse of familiar names and references.
 
I believe that when Picard and crew went back into time to help Zefram Cochrane with his warp flight they inadvertently gave him too much knowledge of the future so things became more advanced sooner than they originally had been in the original time line.

Doesn't explain how the TOS Defiant could have appeared, exactly as it was in the original series, in an ENT episode... ;)

Just watch TOS Remastered. Things aren't always as they first appear. ;)

I'm not following. :confused:
 
....How will you feel? Personally, I'd be more than a little peeved off if this film erases the very first episode of TOS, which IMHO was one of the best.

The new movie is a continuation of The Cage. It's simply a fantasy from Pike's mind. As the final credits roll, a Talosian will look out into the audience with its veins pulsating on its head and we will hear something like "Captain Pike has continuing fantasies, you have reality. May you find yours as pleasant." Then......fade to black.
 
Doesn't explain how the TOS Defiant could have appeared, exactly as it was in the original series, in an ENT episode... ;)

Just watch TOS Remastered. Things aren't always as they first appear. ;)

I'm not following. :confused:

External appearances in Star Trek are often subject to change. I wouldn't be surprised if after the events of this movie, the USS Defiant in IAMD now resembles the new USS Enterprise.
 
External appearances in Star Trek are often subject to change. I wouldn't be surprised if after the events of this movie, the USS Defiant in IAMD now resembles the new USS Enterprise.

What, you think they're gonna digitally alter all future airings of IAMD? :p
 
External appearances in Star Trek are often subject to change. I wouldn't be surprised if after the events of this movie, the USS Defiant in IAMD now resembles the new USS Enterprise.

What, you think they're gonna digitally alter all future airings of IAMD? :p

No. We just have to use our imagination.

Or we can start retconning. ;)
Here we go... The U.S.S. Defiant from IAMD came from the TOS prime timeline into the the pseudo-mirror universe of the TOS prime timeline (pseudo-mirror universe, since its prime universe had already been slightly altered by the Temporal Cold War and the U.S.S. Enterprise-E's time travel in First Contact). The U.S.S. Defiant from the Nero-altered Star Trek XI timeline, however, looks exactly like this timeline's U.S.S. Enterprise (when it exists at all, that is), but was NOT the one that appeared in IAMD. It continued to exist in its timeline... or disappeared into the IAMD episode of what we might call, for simplicity's sake, the mirror Abramsverse, where it became the prototype for the re-engineered mirror U.S.S. Enterprise and its crew, which look exactly like the U.S.S. Enterprise and its crew from Star Trek XI. Does this make any sense at all?
 
What, you think they're gonna digitally alter all future airings of IAMD? :p

No. We just have to use our imagination.

Or we can start retconning. ;)
Here we go... The U.S.S. Defiant from IAMD came from the TOS prime timeline into the the pseudo-mirror universe of the TOS prime timeline (pseudo-mirror universe, since its prime universe had already been slightly altered by the Temporal Cold War and the U.S.S. Enterprise-E's time travel in First Contact). The U.S.S. Defiant from the Nero-altered Star Trek XI timeline, however, looks exactly like this timeline's U.S.S. Enterprise (when it exists at all, that is), but was NOT the one that appeared in IAMD. It continued to exist in its timeline... or disappeared into the IAMD episode of what we might call, for simplicity's sake, the mirror Abramsverse, where it became the prototype for the re-engineered mirror U.S.S. Enterprise and its crew, which look exactly like the U.S.S. Enterprise and its crew from Star Trek XI. Does this make any sense at all?

Yeah, I just about understand. Good job :techman:
 
As the final credits roll, a Talosian will look out into the audience with its veins pulsating on its head and we will hear something like "Captain Pike has his fantasies, you have reality...and we have your ten bucks.. May you find yours as pleasant." Then......fade to black.

More like: "Captain Pike has his fantasies, you have reality...and we have your ten bucks."
 
As the final credits roll, a Talosian will look out into the audience with its veins pulsating on its head and we will hear something like "Captain Pike has his fantasies, you have reality...and we have your ten bucks.. May you find yours as pleasant." Then......fade to black.

More like: "Captain Pike has his fantasies, you have reality...and we have your ten bucks."

:guffaw:
 
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