Stupid humans and their stupid stupidness.
If Star Trek could only be one, movie franchise or series franchise, which would you prefer?
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I only recall vaguely as I was also scrambling this morning. Season 3 had the bulk of them, with "Turnabout Intruder", and possibly "The Tholian Web" and "The Empath" ringing a bell and I don't know why. But the bells go off for "Is There in Truth No Beauty", as it cashes in on footage reuse of the galactic barrier - seen originally in the original pilot "Where No Man Has Gone Before", as well as "By Any Other Name" - which, if I recall, had Kirk referencing Spock having done a mindmeld once before as a possible method to figure out the Kelvins... and I'm impressed in how those three galactic barrier stories all felt authentic and fresh in how they get the ship back to the galactic edge, even if "Beauty" has a teensy problem in that they should still be able to find the edge of their galaxy to get back again, but it's easy to roll along with as its themes and acting are rather well-told. (Or they're past the galactic barrier so far that they somehow can't find it as long-range sensors don't extend that far out and looking outside a window yields no great big chewing gum-pink thing glowing... so I'd argue it's a minor nitpick at worst...)But these as were rare for the time as they were also more plot points than mere "memberberries" (e.g. TNG's "Legacy" that references Camus II as homage to TOS's unintended series finale). Trek was arguably trendsetting in putting in even references to past adventures, especially as running the risk of discontinuity by showing episodes in the wrong order becomes greater and even for decades after, networks would often switch airdates of produced episodes around for various reasons. 1995's "Sliders" instantly comes to mind as the network changed the broadcast order to hopefully get more viewers hooked, whereas the writing staff had a different and deliberate order. Even 1967's "The Prisoner" has, while vague, a preferred order other than broadcast, given how Number Six reacts to certain situations... Space 1999's second season must have done it often, given how many times the numeric count said at the start is somehow far lower than the preceding episode...
Nice & well said!
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Another reason why I like Picard so much. I thought it made up for the TNG Movies in a large way. IMHO too.
Very much this.
The great thing about the tv shows is that with another episode every week, they have time to bring in more character and niche interest stuff. The movies always pander to the lowest common denominator of a mass audience.
TV movie anthologies. No attempt to hitch its characters and situations to earlier series, nor would it attempt to re-imagine older series in any way.
No and no.
It will always be my preference.
One thing I've noticed about fans is that they can never agree on anything... except for maybe this. 91.8% have voted 'Series Only' so far and I wouldn't be surprised to see it go higher.
"The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our medium but in our selves."
- with apologies to Will S.
either.... just not a damn 10 episode season EVER..... thats become a joke!
We get more interesting and diverse stories on TV.
Franchised sci-fi movies inevitably lean towards set pieces, set pieces and big stars. That’s what brings a wider audience into a cinema and that’s what they expect from Trek at the cinema.
The more contemplative, character driven, philosophical stuff we like about Star Trek tends to get lost somewhere onto the big screen.
Franchised sci-fi movies inevitably lean towards set pieces, set pieces and big stars. That’s what brings a wider audience into a cinema and that’s what they expect from Trek at the cinema.
The more contemplative, character driven, philosophical stuff we like about Star Trek tends to get lost somewhere onto the big screen.
Except for TMP.
Which people spend 45 years (wrongly) complaining about.
Hey, even Star Trek has its off days.
And with the variety of films out there by Star Trek I still stand by my (apparently minority) opinion that films are my preference.
That’s funny because there was a whole bit of the post you quoted about TMP which I deleted for brevity.
Yes, when we get something that more resembles a ‘pure’ distillation of Star Trek on the big screen, that’s what it is. A movie which sends the general audience to sleep and is widely derided by even Star Trek fans.
I do want to add… I love TMP. I really do.
My mind wandered while at work today, and then somehow thoughts I have about the two upcoming Star Trek movies crossed my mind, when I saw an update about them.
Here are my joke titles for them...
STAR TREK 4-Ever to Come Out!
STAR TREK: Even the Prequels Have a Prequel Now!
But seriously, though, the Prequel Trek Movie has piqued my interest more than it did before, since it seems like it's mostly taking place on Earth. It sounds like what the original plan for Enterprise Season 1 was going to be, before UPN vetoed it. It sounds like something genuinely different. I have no idea how the execution will pan out, but I can get behind the concept. Especially for a Non-Trek audience.
Here are my joke titles for them...
STAR TREK 4-Ever to Come Out!
STAR TREK: Even the Prequels Have a Prequel Now!
But seriously, though, the Prequel Trek Movie has piqued my interest more than it did before, since it seems like it's mostly taking place on Earth. It sounds like what the original plan for Enterprise Season 1 was going to be, before UPN vetoed it. It sounds like something genuinely different. I have no idea how the execution will pan out, but I can get behind the concept. Especially for a Non-Trek audience.
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I voted for series only. I've been a Trek fan since the early 80s and as much as I loved the TOS movies, I now feel that we were cheated out of so many great stories with the TOS cast and crew. If any franchise could have sustained a decades long premise by changing characters and setting other than Doctor Who, it's Star Trek.
Let's say Phase Two happens and it's a huge success. Several seasons go by and after Shatner and the rest become too expensive to keep aboard and/or they want to move on, new characters move up and succeed them. Characters get promoted off the show and other characters get new ranks and positions. Sulu was supposed to be a captain by TWOK, so maybe the first spin-off is his show. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy move on and either Decker or a new character becomes captain of the Enterprise.
After several years, the Enterprise can get another refit and a new captain and new crewmembers. More 23rd century spin-offs follow and at some point, the decision is made to jump ahead to a new era, maybe twenty-five years or so. The Enterprise-B is launched and the series continues with the name "Star Trek." There's no need to jump ahead eighty years since there's no competition with the TOS crew/actors, who have moved on by now. After about thirty of forty years of this, a new series could make the jump into the 24th or 25th century. There might be a movie here or there but Star Trek is known and beloved as a television staple.
Let's say Phase Two happens and it's a huge success. Several seasons go by and after Shatner and the rest become too expensive to keep aboard and/or they want to move on, new characters move up and succeed them. Characters get promoted off the show and other characters get new ranks and positions. Sulu was supposed to be a captain by TWOK, so maybe the first spin-off is his show. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy move on and either Decker or a new character becomes captain of the Enterprise.
After several years, the Enterprise can get another refit and a new captain and new crewmembers. More 23rd century spin-offs follow and at some point, the decision is made to jump ahead to a new era, maybe twenty-five years or so. The Enterprise-B is launched and the series continues with the name "Star Trek." There's no need to jump ahead eighty years since there's no competition with the TOS crew/actors, who have moved on by now. After about thirty of forty years of this, a new series could make the jump into the 24th or 25th century. There might be a movie here or there but Star Trek is known and beloved as a television staple.
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