If Leyton succeeded would the Dominion war still happen?

[Bry_Sinclair]

Had the coup been successful, I suspect that either the Federation would fracture or there would a civil uprising to oust the military dictatorship. We don't know what Starfleet's membership is like, but there are billions of civilian inhabitants on over 150 member worlds as well as colonies, many of whom would object to the democratic process being usurped by Starfleet and would take action.

 

[Tenacity]

many of whom would object to the democratic process being usurped by Starfleet and would take action.

Depends on whether the general membership agreed with the Federation council's plan concerning the Dominion. If Layton was seen as a "savior" of sorts the general population might support him up through the end of the war.

If Layton attempted to remain in a position of power, the public opinion would likely change rapidly.

 

[marsh8472]

Had the coup been successful, I suspect that either the Federation would fracture or there would a civil uprising to oust the military dictatorship. We don't know what Starfleet's membership is like, but there are billions of civilian inhabitants on over 150 member worlds as well as colonies, many of whom would object to the democratic process being usurped by Starfleet and would take action.

They said in the episode that the bajorians made a pact with the Cardassians after Sisko died. That may have wrecked the Dominions plans of coming into the Alpha Quadrant without having the Cardassians as allies beforehand.

 

[Voth commando1]

I suspect dominion infiltration in the Visitor Timeline would still have occurred-just at a slower pace.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

"jaQ logh Hut" (KDF-controlled "Deep Space Nine") might also have not been as inclined to allow Dominion ships through the wormhole before the begininning of open hostilities as Starfleet was.

 

[Timo]

It was psych warfare all along: sure, the wormhole was jammed open, and sure, the smart thing might be to wait and amass one's own forces into war readiness before wiping out those meager few enemy ships that so arrogantly marched through - but the Klingons would have had none of that. And they would have been the strategically smarter bunch for this once.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Another possible change in Visitor timeline. If the Klingons wiped out the Maquis, maybe Cardassia doesn’t join the Dominion. I suppose Dukat might not have gotten his groove back either.

If Leyton got people frightened enough of changelings, lots of people would be paranoid enough to give up their rights.

 

[The Wormhole]

If the Klingons wiped out the Maquis,

Why would they do that? In the regular timeline they helped the Maquis and supplied weapons to them. Why would a timeline where the Klingons move onto the station change that?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Why would they do that? In the regular timeline they helped the Maquis and supplied weapons to them. Why would a timeline where the Klingons move onto the station change that?

The Maquis are closer to the Klingons in this case. Then again it’s also possible in this timeline the Klingons subjugated Cardassia.

 

[lurok]

yes

 

[The Wormhole]

The Maquis are closer to the Klingons in this case. Then again it’s also possible in this timeline the Klingons subjugated Cardassia.

And? The Maquis have no quarrel with the Klingons, and the Klingons aren't going to go out of their way to bother with a terrorist organization who exist to antagonize the Cardassians when they themselves are attempting to conquer Cardassia.

 

[johnnybear]

Did they ever explain how the Changeling Martok fooled the blood test in Way of The Warrior?
JB

 

[kkt]

Did they ever explain how the Changeling Martok fooled the blood test in Way of The Warrior?
JB

They didn't really spell this out. My impression is that the blood test could be fooled by a good changling who was prepared for it.

 

[johnnybear]

Or was it the real Martok and his capture was...oh hell I don't know!!!
JB

 

[Timo]

They didn't really spell this out. My impression is that the blood test could be fooled by a good changling who was prepared for it.

Of course, as the test was suggested by a Changeling in the first place, it can't have been of any worth to begin with...

The fake Martok claims that the droplets would revert back to Changeling goo in no time flat. This supposedly indeed happens if Odo tries to fake the spilling of blood. But Odo is a baby. Adult Changelings may simply not have any trouble retaining the form of fake blood indefinitely (and may benefit from having little bits of themselves carried into Starfleet high security laboratories everywhere!). Or then they do what Joe Sisko suggested and use real (stolen, grown, replicated) blood.

In any case, the more security measures, the better off the Changelings are, as they generally are in a position where they control the security measures (or at least Martok, Lovok and the briefly fake Leyton all were). The measures just hinder the Alpha folks and cause anxiety and distrust, while the Founders get to infiltrate more freely for having been declared the real deal.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Voth commando1]

I suspect a changeling could manipulate their "blood" or what appeared to be their blood-to remain as blood while in solid form when under going a blood screening.