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If Equinox was not destroyed, what would change in Season 6 and 7 episodes?

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In an alternate timeline, diverging at the start of Voyager Season 6, where Equinox was not destroyed but the Voyager crew took command of it, which episodes after that would change? And how could they change? I am asking because I am writing my rewrite of Voyager and I am approaching the Equinox two parter and I am considering keeping Equinox from being destroyed. But I need to know how that would impact future episodes.
 
It depends on how you'll write it.

If you just keep the former Equinox members as background characters who do their duties, just like Ayala and other background characters, not much will have to be changed.

Of course, you can put in some minor thing like one of the Equinox crew members having a conversation with Captain janeway abour problems to adapt to the Voyager crew and the regulation son the ship or some scene when Torres get an outburst at one of them because of bad work or so.
 
Could work for awhile, maybe introduce some crew discomfort, ala Battlestar Galactica when Pegasus showed up and stayed for abit.
Maybe some time together, then some epic battle happens, and both are baldly damaged and have to cobble together both ships to make 1.
 
If the Voyager writers had been capable of creating an evolving series instead of relentlessly pummeling the Big Red Reset Button, they could have done all sorts of things with the Equinox.
 
I actually started exploring this in my VOY Theoretical Horizons fanfiction (which is in the fanfic section of TrekBBS).
I have gotten past the repair stage for the Equinox (which serves as a period of establishing and adjustment for the new Equinox crew, etc), but not much beyond that.
Made a few adjustment to Life Line episode which were needed, but I intend on expanding this now that my studies are done (aka, inject stories with VOY/Equinox missions in between Equinox finishing repairs and Life Line in how I think the events might be altered).

In my version, Chakotay becomes the acting captain, Carey takes on a role of first officer and chief engineer (Nicoletti as second engineer), Ayala as chief of security, Chell takes over mess hall and morale, Jenny Delaney takes over OPS, Baytart takes the helm, Wildman assists as the new nurse, and the Equinox survivors are put to work under Chakotay (along with multiple other volunteers from VOY crew who transferred to comprise a total of 45 people onboard) - plus, Kim is promoted on VOY... Lots of stuff happening during those repairs (which in my version take 10 days total - there's a reason for that time frame of course).
 
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In an alternate timeline, diverging at the start of Voyager Season 6, where Equinox was not destroyed but the Voyager crew took command of it, which episodes after that would change? And how could they change? I am asking because I am writing my rewrite of Voyager and I am approaching the Equinox two parter and I am considering keeping Equinox from being destroyed. But I need to know how that would impact future episodes.

Wasn't this question asked before?

Oh yeah:


I'll say again what I said in that thread: Absolutely nothing would have changed. But hey, this is just your fanfic that we will all never see, so knock yourself out.
 
And I'll repeat what I said in that thread
UPN wouldn't have gone for it, so it's a moot point anyway. Besides, when Ron Moore got the chance to do his own variation of the story on BSG, he only kept the Pegasus around for approximately a dozen episodes or so anyway. So if the Equinox had stayed beyond the two parter, it likely would have still been gone by the middle of S6 anyway.
 
Wasn't this question asked before?

Oh yeah:


I'll say again what I said in that thread: Absolutely nothing would have changed. But hey, this is just your fanfic that we will all never see, so knock yourself out.

I would argue that Season 6 would have looked quite different with both VOY and Equinox in the picture.

The writers would have to come up with events that involve both ships on joint or separate missions, different events on what happened - exploration of Equinox survivors and how they are adjusting to the 'new' Equinox (and its new crew). etc.

Even if they had Season 6 fleshed out more or less and changed their minds about keeping Equinox around at the last minute, they could keep a few episodes as they were, but ultimately, both S6 and 7 would have to take a different route.

Also, (for example), in my story, I have 0 intention of destroying Equinox mid S6... its gonna stick around.

And I'll repeat what I said in that thread
UPN wouldn't have gone for it, so it's a moot point anyway. Besides, when Ron Moore got the chance to do his own variation of the story on BSG, he only kept the Pegasus around for approximately a dozen episodes or so anyway. So if the Equinox had stayed beyond the two parter, it likely would have still been gone by the middle of S6 anyway.

Perhaps. But with the Equinox surviving, there's just a domino effect that would likely start rolling.
Depending on how the writers approached character and events development - if the audiences received the Equinox and its new crew 'well enough' and the altered dynamic between the two ships (and stories that follow) its possible it would have resulted in a lasting change.

Its not impossible to tell stories between 2 ships/settings effectively and make it last. Ds9 did it, and other shows did too.
 
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I would argue that Season 6 would have looked quite different with both VOY and Equinox in the picture.

The writers would have to come up with events that involve both ships on joint or separate missions, different events on what happened - exploration of Equinox survivors and how they are adjusting to the 'new' Equinox (and its new crew). etc.

Even if they had Season 6 fleshed out more or less and changed their minds about keeping Equinox around at the last minute, they could keep a few episodes as they were, but ultimately, both S6 and 7 would have to take a different route.

Also, (for example), in my story, I have 0 intention of destroying Equinox mid S6... its gonna stick around.




Perhaps. But with the Equinox surviving, there's just a domino effect that would likely start rolling.
Depending on how the writers approached character and events development - if the audiences received the Equinox and its new crew 'well enough' and the altered dynamic between the two ships (and stories that follow) its possible it would have resulted in a lasting change.

Its not impossible to tell stories between 2 ships/settings effectively and make it last. Ds9 did it, and other shows did too.

So there's a difference between 'What would the writers have done,' and 'What would you have done.' What actually happened was that the ship was destroyed and its survivors instantly forgotten, because UPN wanted an episodic show and not a show with a story arc. Now with that in mind, let's play devil's advocate and say that the ship survived, knowing UPN's wants and their hamstringing of the writers. There was simply no need for two ships each episode. When the writers clearly wanted to focus on Janeway, the Doctor, and 7 of 9, there's no room for a side story about a crew on another ship just following Voyager along for the ride. So either the ship would have met a disastrous fate halfway through the 6th season, or there would be an episode where a bunch of generic officers we've never seen before suddenly decide that they want to go their separate ways and take off with the Equinox.
 
So there's a difference between 'What would the writers have done,' and 'What would you have done.' What actually happened was that the ship was destroyed and its survivors instantly forgotten, because UPN wanted an episodic show and not a show with a story arc. Now with that in mind, let's play devil's advocate and say that the ship survived, knowing UPN's wants and their hamstringing of the writers. There was simply no need for two ships each episode. When the writers clearly wanted to focus on Janeway, the Doctor, and 7 of 9, there's no room for a side story about a crew on another ship just following Voyager along for the ride. So either the ship would have met a disastrous fate halfway through the 6th season, or there would be an episode where a bunch of generic officers we've never seen before suddenly decide that they want to go their separate ways and take off with the Equinox.

I'm well aware of the differences involved and what we actually got.
The topic was "If Equinox was not destroyed, what would change in Season 6 and 7 episodes?"

Additionally, despite the potential intent on wanting to focus on specific 3 characters... the story would simply be adapted to be told in this new setting where the Equinox survived (while providing development for that crew too)... but my point is that the very survival of the Equinox would likely force change in storytelling anyway.

And there's no way to know for sure how the events would have unfolded if the Equinox was kept around.
You're assuming/projecting that the Equinox would have met a disastrous end midway through S6 just because Ron Moore said a specific thing in the context of BSG.

Trek is still a different show... so saying something with absolute confidence just because it happened on another show and thinking the same thing would happen on Trek is still your personal opinion, but ultimately you don't know this is how things would have unfolded had the Equinox was kept around - because you don't know.

Intent changes... directions of storytelling can change significantly.

And for the record, I only posted what I intend on doing in my fanfic as an example that a different direction COULD be made - that's kinda the point of fanfic - exploring paths that weren't taken in canon - it wasn't meant to project what 'should' have happened... simply an exploration of my take of how I envision thing might have happened had Equinox was kept around.
 
And there's no way to know for sure how the events would have unfolded if the Equinox was kept around.
You're assuming/projecting that the Equinox would have met a disastrous end midway through S6 just because Ron Moore said a specific thing in the context of BSG.

No I'm not. I'm assuming that the ship wouldn't be around long because it would not fit with what UPN wanted for the show. I never said anything about BSG.
 
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