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If CUBA is such a great place why do so many people try to leave?

Cuba does, as far as I know, have pretty good health care, actually. They're way ahead of the curve compared to other developing countries in that regard. Everything else is kind of crumbling, though.

Alot of that is probably due to quality of life. They eat less processed crap in that part of the world and don't poison their bodies like they do here. It really shouldn't come as a shock that they would be healthier
 
^ well they do eat a lot less processed crap, but then again... most of them just eat a whooole lot less...period.

but any opinions I have about Cuba are pretty biased(towards the negative) b/c my parents & relatives are all Cuban exiles who came here during the 70's.
 
Cubans come to America because they want to make it big like Ricky Ricardo.

I hate to tell you this with the absurd communist Cuba love here, but...

Desi Arnaz was from an aristocratic family who FLED the country during the 1933 Juan Batista regime takeover (communist), where his father was stripped of his wealth and even jailed by the regime. We are talking a family who co-founded the Bacardi rum company (his grandfather) and was given Ventura County (California) and part of north Los Angeles County by the queen of Spain. They lost all of that and 17-year-old Desi had to clean bird cages penniless in New York where he didn't speak English. He worked his way up from nothing. He gave a very emotional speech about how America took him in when he had lost everything.

Interesting to note that Desi never once visited Cuba (he considered himself an American) even when Batista was more or less softened by the Italian mafia (who basically turned Havana into a second Las Vegas) and before Fidel Castro came in during the second communist takeover in 1959 because Castro didn't think Batista was communist enough.

For the record, Ché Guevara was a mass-murdering thug. He was Fidel's butcher. Ché was also the one sent to Moscow to request nuclear missiles (the Cuban Missle Crisis). The reason Ché was killed in Bolivia was because the Bolivians got pissed at him trying to ferment revolution in a country that had property ownership rights at the time.

There's a reason Cubans try to flee the country at any cost. :rolleyes:
 
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Cubans come to America because they want to make it big like Ricky Ricardo.

I hate to tell you this with the absurd communist Cuba love here, but...

Desi Arnaz was from an aristocratic family who FLED the country during the 1933 Juan Batista regime takeover (communist), where his father was stripped of his wealth and even jailed by the regime.

Batista wasn't a Communist (at least, not by the Cold War definition of "didn't like the United States). Batista was supported by the US and allowed foreign investment in the country. He was also a brutal oppressive dictator, but so was his successor.

I didn't realize this thread was actually supposed to be taken seriously. It's based on movies and a Michael Moore documentary, so I was just playing along in light hearted fun (as I suspect the Ricky Ricardo comment was intended).
 
For many years while it was an active movement American Communists needed a workers paradise. They needed a place they could point to and say "look this is what communism could do". The Soviet Union was it for many years until the post-Stalin era kind of unraveled that myth. China was it for a long time too, bit nobody really ever wanted to live in China. They even tried to use North Korea and Cambodia as candidates, but some dead bodies got in the way there. Cuba is the last hope. It is the last truly authentic old-guard communist state left so it's them or nothing for Marxism.
 
Desi Arnaz was from an aristocratic family who FLED the country during the 1933 Juan Batista regime takeover (communist), where his father was stripped of his wealth and even jailed by the regime. We are talking a family who co-founded the Bacardi rum company (his grandfather) and was given Ventura County (California) and part of north Los Angeles County by the queen of Spain. They lost all of that and 17-year-old Desi had to clean bird cages penniless in New York where he didn't speak English. He worked his way up from nothing. He gave a very emotional speech about how America took him in when he had lost everything.
That type of story is repeated many times. Cuba is a disaster on pretty much every socio-economic level. Unless you're a government insider.

I didn't realize this thread was actually supposed to be taken seriously. It's based on movies and a Michael Moore documentary, so I was just playing along in light hearted fun (as I suspect the Ricky Ricardo comment was intended).
Indeed. I would hope that there are few people who would actually want to flee to Cuba. :rommie:
 
Here's an article explaining the TWO Cuban revolutions:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/21022/sec_id/21022

It's quite a fascinating article, actually.

And sue me, I like Desi Arnaz. Cuban Cabby, Granada, Guadalajara and El Cumbanchero are a few of my favorites.

Speaking of reruns, Desi (90% of what he did was on the production side of Desilu) was responsible for the creation of the multiple-camera setup that is now standard and using film instead of poor-quality kinoscopes. This use of archived film instead of the kinoscope made way for the possibility of reruns!

Trekkies should be particularly aware of Desi's production foresight. Desilu produced Star Trek.
 
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