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If Apollo offered you what Kirk rejected, would you take it?

Qonundrum

Just graduated from Camp Ridiculous
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"Who Mourns for Adonis", for all its superficial weirdness, has a strong undercurrent of a theme - or rather, a modernization of "rejecting Eden" that is hit or miss with TOS but in this episode it comes across as being quite original and entertaining. Kirk almost seems too happy to speak for all his crew and who said Apollo was being a slaver when it can be argued just as easily that Kirk is no better (not to mention, Apollo can really work that gold lamé shower curtain toga so if even everything else is boring, it's not hard to focus attention on that...)

Kirk The Boring said:
Reject him, and we have a chance to save ourselves. Accept him, and you condemn all of us to slavery, nothing less than slavery. We might never get help this far out. Or perhaps the thought of spending an eternity bending knee and tending sheep appeals to you.

Let's count the reasons that, in all fairness, weren't really known in 1967:

* galactic change - who knows what that ship is doing to the cosmos ("Force of Nature" reveals one now-confirmed issue). Maybe everybody should tend to gardeny things like farming crops, animals, and finding joysticks other than those that are connected to an XBox - at least until the next novel STD is passed around, I guess.. unless Apollo cured those. Then who wouldn't be happy?
* Kirk was just hiding his subconscious desire to herd sheep - ironic given that's what a captain does? Look at how he berates his crew in stories like this one, Space Seed, etc. He's just Apollo, but without the ability to grow into a 20' tall giant
* given Kirk's overt and vocal dislike of Earth-centric historians who he thinks are all lazy and worthless and yet his ship is apparently loaded with them (see "Space Seed" for more -- oh dear, that's a virtual checkmate on Kirk already. :( ) since McGivers, Palamas, et al, have specialties that can't translate directly or indirectly to alien worlds' cultures' histories and nobody knew Apollo was waiting on some distant planet to whip out his big hand, some characters just exist for the sake of the plot. Maaaaaybe McGivers can somehow point out universal behavioral constants, like Counselor Troi only without a direct emotional link so she just guesses at cold reading for a living I'd guess...

Carolyn wanting to play with Apollo's big sheep said:
: Love you? Be logical. I'm not some simple shepherdess you can awe. Why, I could no more love you than I could love a new species of bacteria.

Now there's a response. What if Kirk's gambit failed and they all ended up herding sheep and telling baaaaaaad jokes for a living just so Apollo would stop reminiscing over playing on precious Pan's pipe collection? (pre-season 3 TOS always had happy endings as opposed to stalemates or worse... Freiberger wasn't perfect but he's a bit underrated in some ways, but I digress...)

But what would you do? Take up the offer? Readily or after certain assurances were made? Apollo, if nothing else, seems pretty straightforward.
 
I live in a 1st world country so being a slave subject to the whims of a demi-god would be as attractive to me as living under North Korea's regime.
Sure if I was starving or living in a war torn country maybe it would be better but say Apollo took a liking to my teenaged daughter or I didn't laugh at one of his jokes - you could be dead in a second for opposing him.
 
If it were actor Michael Forest? Maybe. The dude is pretty cool from what I've seen on him online.

Apollo? HELL, NAW.
 
If you consider the work to idle ratio in the Federation, is 1:100,000 then the federation already took this deal. Although the 89 billion Federation citizens, who do not have a job, have a lot more to do "for fun" than paint and get drunk.
 
Only if he puts the n at the end of his name, like he's supposed to if he's the Greek God. The Greeks called him Apollon, "Apollo" is the Roman version of his name!

Serious mode... from my current situation, I wouldn't mind prancing around Arcadia for the rest of my life and worshipping Apollo.
Beats having to actually work for a living. So I'd defenitely be tempted.

From the perspective of a Federation citizen... No way in hell.
 
Kirk almost seems too happy to speak for all his crew and who said Apollo was being a slaver when it can be argued just as easily that Kirk is no better...

Kirk is speaking for people who choose to be in Starfleet, accepted an assignment to the Enterprise and to follow the orders of superior officers. Apollo was offering no choice in the matter.

And no, I have no interest in chasing sheep around for the entertainment of a "god".
 
What is not well explained is why they left Earth, to begin with. It happened in the past, right? These gods are too powerful even to US NOW!!!!

Why would they have left? They should still be enslaving us for their amusement.

Morality: Don't think too long about anything Star Trek or you'll end up finding a big flaw like I just did.
 
a gilded cage is still a cage. and a benevolent dictator is still a dictator.
Freedom is a wonderful thing!
 
Maybe that was the planet Dr. Sevrin and the hippies were really looking for.

These people didn't look like they were willing to herd sheep, or do any real work for that matter. I think Appollo would have gotten bored watching them all day smoke joints and sing their stupid songs.
 
These people didn't look like they were willing to herd sheep, or do any real work for that matter. I think Appollo would have gotten bored watching them all day smoke joints and sing their stupid songs.

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