Merged JonnyQuest's Mister Chekov thread into this on-going thread.
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As you can see from my avatar, I had a crack at a fan story using Gimp and screenshots from TMP. It's a fun way to tell new stories and Mister Chekov was one of the best issues to date. Byrne did a great job of conveying the ensign's early personality and the pacing of the story was very good.
I think this kind of photo story requires you to accept the limitations of the medium. They could take time to perfect every frame but not in time to get new issues out regularly. Just finding images with compatible shadows is a real pain. I'm not convinced that putting in all that extra effort would add enough to the overall experience. I'm loving the series as is.
I think this kind of photo story requires you to accept the limitations of the medium. They could take time to perfect every frame but not in time to get new issues out regularly. Just finding images with compatible shadows is a real pain. I'm not convinced that putting in all that extra effort would add enough to the overall experience. I'm loving the series as is.
Agreed. Expecting every single panel to look like a photorealistic still from TOS is not a realistic expectation. Especially when you consider some of the limitations that Byrne is working under, such as only having the likeness rights of a limited number of actors who appeared on TOS. That alone limits your story possibilities.
I finally read the first three collections of this thanks to the library, and they're better than I expected. The flaws in the photomontage-mixed-with-CGI art style don't stand out quite as much in print as on the computer screen, it seems to me. And though a lot of the stories are limited by the need to bring back characters and elements from TOS episodes, there are more original plots than I expected, and some are fairly interesting. What particularly strikes me is how dense the stories are. Modern comics tend to be really decompressed, with just a few large panels and a few speech balloons per page, but these stories have old-school comics pacing with as many as 8 or 9 panels on a page and a lot of dialogue. So there's a lot more story packed into a single issue. I appreciate that.
I don't know, but each single issue of New Visions is about twice as many pages as a typical comic issue, and as I said, there's more story per page, so the stories are actually pretty long. And many of the issues have a shorter backup story after the main story. So even a collection of "just" three issues has more content than a 6-issue collection of another comic.
The only signs that IDW will eventually do a "mega omnibus" of Byrne's New Vision work are just the precedents of IDW having done so in the past with Byrne's hand-drawn Trek comics and their ongoing titles, such as the nuTrek series and the X-Files: Season 10 series.
So, there's a solid chance of a "mega omnibus" down the road, but nothing officially announced just yet.
The latest issue, "Of Woman Born," was pretty disturbing in its implications.
The best part of the issue was the one-page gag about TAS.
The best part of the issue was the one-page gag about TAS.
Indeed! I guess some would consider a pic to be a spoiler, but it's so cool I bought an extra copy to frame.
Arex by John Byrne from Ian McLean, on Flickr
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Hello. New poster.
I've been getting NEW VISIONS since the 2013 Annual came out.
It's like TOS is back with all new "episodes".
For a story that might be considered a "bottle" episode, this "bottle" was full -- in scope, story, and was action-packed!
Mr. Scott and Engineering were the showcase. Scotty and his "wee bairns" got to shine, and new areas "logically" fit our expectations of what those decks should have always looked like. Matt Jeffries would've been proud!
Of course, Chekov's moments weren't "chopped liver." The byplay with Scotty and Shea seemed natural for the young ensign on his first, big adventure. Even Mr. Sulu had some nice moments with Pavel; the idea of Sulu being a mentor "solidifies" (wink-wink) their later friendship and comradery.
It was great to see Shea, Palmer, DePaul, and McGivers; it helped to see so many familiar faces (now if we could only get Lt. Hadley and Mr. Leslie). Great use of the "shaken crew in the corridor" images. Twice! The Enterprise herself got a good workout, too.
As always, the McCoy/Spock bridge banter was terrific; McCoy's "Let there be light" remarks were hilarious. I could actually "hear" DeForest Kelley deliver the line in that inimitable way he did!
The conflict of "tonight's episode" was intriguing. I never quite thought of the "multiverse" in that way before. JB, have you used this concept previously? I cannot recall.
Plain and simple, "Mister Chekov" works! It was a ball; this is Star Trek as it was and always should be! And now we know where Chekov was when Khan later said:
"I know you. I never forget a face."
I also reviewed the next "episode" as well: "Of Woman Born" (as a member of the John Byrne Forum)
"Who Mourns ..." always left an impression about the true nature of the Greek gods and the Greek civilization of the time. It makes you think of the possibilities.
A line of Spock's dialog in this story made me think: Hmm, descendants of the Greek gods. They were alleged to have mated with mortals; some humans to this day have special "gifts".
Thought provoking. As well as entertaining.
Usually when a child or animal is introduced into a story it may gain a case of the "cutes". No such animal (or child) in this story.
Spock and McCoy were the highlight of this story; the banter, the wit, and yet underlying respect and concern for each other was evident.
Once again, great choices of images of Lt. Palamas. The soft-focus back-lighting of women on TOS always made them pretty.
Great to see more views of the "engineering" sets. To me, the compositions seem seamless. (Using the "shaking crew in the corridor" shot! One of my favorites; it gives "heft" to an attack on the ship scene.)
It was neat to see Spock integrated with the Matt Jeffries' set from "Who Mourns ..."
Understandably, this was more "cerebral" story than an "action adventure", but there were plenty of dramatic moments of peril.
And McCoy gets "the last word". Perfect!
The "nattering nabobs of negativism" will decry it a "sequel" (especially if they don't read past the "teaser/recap" at the beginning of the story; nicely composited).
I feel it's more of a "coda", and resolves a lingering story point, but provokes thought.
A sold effort. No false notes ,here.
I won't spoil the one-pager at the end, but my reaction was: Hey, you got him in! And: laughing my butt off!
"Who Mourns ..." always left an impression about the true nature of the Greek gods and the Greek civilization of the time. It makes you think of the possibilities.
A line of Spock's dialog in this story made me think: Hmm, descendants of the Greek gods. They were alleged to have mated with mortals; some humans to this day have special "gifts".
Thought provoking. As well as entertaining.
Usually when a child or animal is introduced into a story it may gain a case of the "cutes". No such animal (or child) in this story.
Spock and McCoy were the highlight of this story; the banter, the wit, and yet underlying respect and concern for each other was evident.
Once again, great choices of images of Lt. Palamas. The soft-focus back-lighting of women on TOS always made them pretty.
Great to see more views of the "engineering" sets. To me, the compositions seem seamless. (Using the "shaking crew in the corridor" shot! One of my favorites; it gives "heft" to an attack on the ship scene.)
It was neat to see Spock integrated with the Matt Jeffries' set from "Who Mourns ..."
Understandably, this was more "cerebral" story than an "action adventure", but there were plenty of dramatic moments of peril.
And McCoy gets "the last word". Perfect!
The "nattering nabobs of negativism" will decry it a "sequel" (especially if they don't read past the "teaser/recap" at the beginning of the story; nicely composited).
I feel it's more of a "coda", and resolves a lingering story point, but provokes thought.
A sold effort. No false notes ,here.
I won't spoil the one-pager at the end, but my reaction was: Hey, you got him in! And: laughing my butt off!
For those who didn't see the other thread, an exclusive new "Humble Bundle/IDW" comic of "Star Trek: New Visions" photo comic will feature the Gorn!
"More of the Serpent Than the Dove."
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/star-trek-comics-bundle
"More of the Serpent Than the Dove."
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/star-trek-comics-bundle
You are missing a "/quote" in your post. 
Sorry. Finger slipped.
John Byrne's STAR TREK NEW VISIONS SPECIAL "THE CAGE" scheduled for today at the local comic shops.
Curious to see how he laid out the images and dialogue balloons in a "comic" format.
Curious to see how he laid out the images and dialogue balloons in a "comic" format.
I love New Visions but I'm really not interested in this one. Much better to see hiskills at making new stories come to life.
I feel it's a bit limited by the need to reuse characters and elements from TOS episodes, but there have been a few more original stories with CGI creatures and settings and "guest stars" playing new characters. Mainly, I like how dense the storytelling is, how many panels and speech balloons are crammed into each page, so unlike the decompressed style of most modern comics. It makes for rather meaty stories.
I agree; but he'd had that adaptation in the planning stages for a year to hit during the 50th.
September's issue "Swarm" is an original. Last I checked his Forum, he had up to the seventeenth story in production, provided IDW continues with the title. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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