IDW announces crossover: Transformers, G.I. Joe, Trek, Ghostbusters...

[JD]

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Russel T Davies wanted to do an Ent. crossover, but the studios wouldn't go for it, and Waters of Mars was originally going to be a Trekish story but somewhere along the line he changed his mind.

As for Trek vs Alien vs Preditor, we did kinda get an Alien crossover when Taran'atar fought an Xenomorph in one of the Mission Gamma books.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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Not too fussed about any of this, but I'd love to see a Star Trek/Doctor Who crossover. If memory serves, John Byrne actually wanted to cross over the Third Doctor and his UNIT chums with Gary Seven in his Assignment: Earth mini-series, but the BBC wouldn't let IDW do it.

It didn't get as far as the BBC. IDW told Byrne that the BBC was unlikely to approve it, but that could have been because of Byrne's desire to also use the Daleks for the story, not because of the crossover.

I applaud Byrne for thinking outside-the-box with his story, but really. If you're going to cross over the two series, do you really want the story to star a one-time guest star from one series and the lead actor of the other series from forty years ago?

Plus, there is some issue with IDW using past Doctors in new stories. (However, both past and future Doctors made appearances in IDW's Annual.)

Maybe if someone said, "I want to put Matt Smith's Doctor on Chris Pine's Enterprise," IDW would be more receptive (because, let's be honest, that's more marketable than Byrne's idea), and the BBC and CBS would be approached about making it work. Maybe.

 

[EJA]

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I've always had a sneaking like of the Trek/X-Men crossovers. I had no idea John Byrne had wanted to do a Dr Who/Trek crossover. This mega-crossover IDW is doing sounds intriguing, I must say.

Oh, and didn't Marvel UK do something in the late 80s were a race of shapeshifters fought characters that existed in different continuities? I seem to remember the Seventh Doctor meeting them in one story in DWM. Maybe this Infestation thing is something similar.

 

[captcalhoun]

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yes, the Gwanzalums were blue furred shapeshifters who appeared in Thundercats, Doctor Who and Combat Colin, the half-page parody strip which originated in the pages of Marvel UK's GI Joe comic 'Action Force' before moving to their Transformers comic.

and, i've just google-whacked. Gwanzalums returns no search results!

hm, a search for 'gwanzalum' gets 2. one of which is a nostalgic post on comicbookresources.com's forums. the other's no use.

 

[Steve Roby]

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Yes, it may sound silly right now, but you're judging it solely on the basis of, well... absolutely nothing.

But... but... anything involving Transforners is inherently silly.

 

[captcalhoun]

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yes, the Gwanzalums were blue furred shapeshifters who appeared in Thundercats, Doctor Who and Combat Colin, the half-page parody strip which originated in the pages of Marvel UK's GI Joe comic 'Action Force' before moving to their Transformers comic.

and, i've just google-whacked. Gwanzalums returns no search results!

hm, a search for 'gwanzalum' gets 2. one of which is a nostalgic post on comicbookresources.com's forums. the other's no use.

hah! one result now. for this post!

 

[EJA]

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The Gwanzulums also appeared in a story in Marvel UK's Real Ghostbusters title.

 

[EJA]

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But... but... anything involving Transforners is inherently silly.

On what do you base that? You ought to read some of the stuff that Simon Furman wrote for Marvel's Transformers comic in the 80s, he did some fantastic stories.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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^^Silly doesn't have to mean bad. Star Trek's pretty silly too, when you think about it!

 

[JoeZhang]

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But... but... anything involving Transforners is inherently silly.

On what do you base that? You ought to read some of the stuff that Simon Furman wrote for Marvel's Transformers comic in the 80s, he did some fantastic stories.

I've found the recent series to be largely incoherent and difficult to understand.

 

[Steve Roby]

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I just can't make the conceptual leap required to buy the Transformers as believable characters, based on what I've seen of the movies and video games. It's not the stories, it's the Transformers themselves I can't buy into. Bear in mind that I didn't grow up with them. I was at university when they first hit the pop cultural radar.

 

[Christopher]

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I gotta agree. No matter how well the stories are told (and I did like Beast Wars and Transformers Animated), we're still talking about alien robots that disguise themselves as Earth vehicles and use inexplicably terrestrial names. (Like, why in the hell would a robot from a planet with no biological life be named Bumblebee?) The core concept is an awkward and silly one, no matter how successful various writers have been at handling it in an intelligent way.

 

[kkozoriz1]

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They're just setting up the crossover for the third Trek movie

Seriously, (if such a word can be used in this context) it's just a bunch of franchises that appeal to a younger set being thrown together. Not interested.

 

[Daddy Todd]

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Yes, it may sound silly right now, but you're judging it solely on the basis of, well... absolutely nothing.

But... but... anything involving Transforners is inherently silly.

This.

I'm not interested in a crossover between Star Trek and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers either, but I'm sure lots of Gen-Y fanboys would wet themselves over that prospect.

Transformers, G.I. Joe and Thundercats came a half-generation earlier, when I was in college, and similarly have no resonance for me. Crossing them over with Star Trek just seems like fanwankery on an epic level.

It's a generational thing -- I was in my late 20's or early 30's when TMNT and Power Rangers burst onto the scene. They were never more than something I rolled my eyes at. And while I concede that Star Trek has it's share of eyeroll moments, Trek was MY "afterschool special" during the first wave of reruns in the early '70's, and it captured me during MY Golden Age. I'll always have an affection for it.

I might, however, be interested in a crossover between Star Trek, The Wild Wild West and Dark Shadows...

 

[Cybersnark]

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I wrote this yesterday, but it took me more than 30 seconds, so the forum ate it and logged me out.

This could be interesting.

Egon's PKE meter is basically an anemic and highly-specialized tricorder, and I doubt the proton packs do anything a good Starfleet engineer couldn't build something to do. Hell, the Equinox crew basically built their own containment unit and ghost traps.

I can easily see G.I. Joe being a prototype for Enterprise's MACOs (and thus for Starfleet Security).

And Transformers has dealt with ghosts and secret paramilitary groups, as well as such Star Trek fixtures as time-travel, highly-advanced god-like aliens, and has actually done more with alternate universes than Star Trek has.

(I would love to see a Star Trek take on Axiom Nexus. It would probably be like a cross between the Captain's Table, the Celestial Temple, and Erigol.)

 

[fleetcaptain]

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Interesting. Not sure about this myself but will wait til they come out. I wonder what old stores they are trying to tie to.

 

[Steve Roby]

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FWIW, I should add that I'm only giving my personal reaction to the whole Transformers thing, and admit that there are things I still love that I got into when I was young that I might find rather harder to get into if I discovered them now. Not that I'm mentioning Space: 1999 by name or anything.

 

[captcalhoun]

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I gotta agree. No matter how well the stories are told (and I did like Beast Wars and Transformers Animated), we're still talking about alien robots that disguise themselves as Earth vehicles and use inexplicably terrestrial names. (Like, why in the hell would a robot from a planet with no biological life be named Bumblebee?) The core concept is an awkward and silly one, no matter how successful various writers have been at handling it in an intelligent way.

the names are obviously translated into English.

why is the concept of robots that turn into vehicles 'awkward and silly'? the only 'awkward and silly' thing is the whole issue of mass-shifting (a 35' tall robot becomes a Walther P38 or a tape deck) which i've never liked even as a kid in the '80s.

 

[JoeZhang]

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As long as Refridgeron and Magnimus are in it, I'll be happy.

http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF156-Disassemble.gif

http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF121-Refridgeron_and_Magnimus.gif

 

[Turtletrekker]

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the names are obviously translated into English.

Why would a culture with no organic life even have a word for something like a "Bumblebee" to be translated into english in the first place?