Ideal situation moving forward (post-60th Anniversary)

[dswynne1]

No one will agree on what is the best way moving forward. I generally like the Kelvin Films, but I am a Classic Trekkie. But, we need to bring all these elements forward, so, with spoiler:

• Acknowledge the shenanigan known as the Temporal Cold War, hot and cold, and how that has affected the 'Trek Timeline.
• Include key players, from different eras (TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, KELV, DSC, etc.) be aware of what is happening, and why they are assembled to "fix" the situation (it's doesn't have to be everyone, just the key people needed to get the job done); maybe all the "captains" get assembled, in some way or another (probably not, due to the expense)?
• Start with a mini-series on the streaming service as the "preamble", but resolve the crisis in the movie, featuring the Kelvin timeline crew.
• Have some reveal as to who was responsible for the crisis (i.e. too many paradoxes is destroying the fabric of reality, blah, blah, blah), but with a twist; no REVENGE (Chekov was behind it all??? LOL ).
• Crisis is resolved; Q (John DeLancie) appears, congratulates our heroes, and, with a snap of the fingers, reality is reset; we also get to find out who is the mysterious Koala.
• Timeline resets to its "proper" flow, however it pans out, with "updated" aesthetics (in fact, I wouldn't mind pushing back key events within the STAR TREK universe a hundred years or more, just to keep "The Future" a bit more distant).
• We move forward with a "new" crew, whether it's new, younger actors playing existing roles, or simply start fresh with a new cast.

Regardless, I do hope that Paramount actually does something to celebrate the STAR TREK franchise with some interesting stories. Later...

 

[HotRod]

I cannot find a way to sugarcoat this, so I'll just say it...

Those are all terrible ideas.

Fan wank to the extreme.

 

[Relayer1]

The only thing I'd like from Kelvin 4 is to resolve the alternate timeline back into the prime one.

All nicely circular, wrapped up and finished.

 

[HotRod]

The only thing I'd like from Kelvin 4 is to resolve the alternate timeline back into the prime one.

All nicely circular, wrapped up and finished.

Yeah, no..... that would effectively kill our heroes.

 

[Relayer1]

Yeah, no..... that would effectively kill our heroes.

I'm kind of good with that.

 

[dswynne1]

I cannot find a way to sugarcoat this, so I'll just say it...

Those are all terrible ideas.

Fan wank to the extreme.

Of course they are; expensive, too, but my overall point is that I want something that celebrates the STAR TREK franchise, past, present and future. Let's celebrate, shall we?

 

[HotRod]

Of course they are; expensive, too, but my overall point is that I want something that celebrates the STAR TREK franchise, past, present and future. Let's celebrate, shall we?

I want something that makes money so the franchise can continue.

 

[fireproof78]

I want something that makes money so the franchise can continue.

I want something that captures the adventure feel of the Kelvin Universe. If this is a big Anniversary situation then I see no reason to make the story tie around the Kelvin crew. I certainly don't want a timeline reset because, well, that seems to deliberately ignore what made the Kelvin universe special.

You want a big anniversary celebratory event? Use a current show to build this movie, like Prodigy, and holograms to bring all these different eras together. No timeline resets, no Q, no Koala.

 

[cooleddie74]

I want something I'll like. That's about 95% of what I want in any new Trek film or series project and the other 5% is largely does it look/feel right. To me most Trek celebrates the wider franchise and I don't need a very narrow concept of what "celebrates" Star Trek or "dilutes and harms" it.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I'd rather they just start over again. I love Chris Pine and the rest of the Kelvin Timeline cast, but I think the whole thing is tainted with too many delays and other behind-the-scenes issues that have derailed it. The writers and actors strikes aside, we are currently no nearer to getting a fourth film than we were five years ago, IMO. Paramount might be better off moving on from Bad Robot and do a proper reboot with a clean slate. No time travel, no direct connections to the Prime Timeline, and just reintroduce Kirk & the gang with a new cast, a new origin story, and yes, another new reimagining of the Enterprise.

 

[F. King Daniel]

This sounds like Star Trek trying to do The Flash, and we all know what a huge success that movie was.

Timeline resets to its "proper" flow, however it pans out, with "updated" aesthetics (in fact, I wouldn't mind pushing back key events within the STAR TREK universe a hundred years or more, just to keep "The Future" a bit more distant).

Isn't this what SNW has done? The Temporal Wars moved the Eugenics Wars and now everything looks a lot more modern than TOS.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I want Kelvin 4 and I want it to be the start of a ‘middle-aged’ trilogy.

Then in about 15 years they can do an ‘out of retirement’ trilogy.

I just want more Kelvin. I still believe it will happen one day. I think Paramount will lean into that 2009 nostalgia sooner or later and the good thing about nostalgia is it becomes stronger with age and the passage of time.

They have a cast full of well-liked, bankable stars in a setting that is familiar to even the most casual viewer. I don't see why they would throw it away if they didn't have to.

I don't think Kelvin is tainted in the public eye. Merely absent. I think audiences would welcome another.

 

[C.E. Evans]

The Kelvin Timeline is tainted in the sense that it takes too long to make each film and now can't even hold on to anyone long enough to write and direct the fourth one. And that was before Hollywood went on strike. If they still can't get their act together once the SAG strike is over, probably no one other than diehard Trekkers will even care, and that just won't cut it these days...

 

[F. King Daniel]

The ideas Paramount have had haven't been made into films for various reasons. Chis Hemsworth didn't think his story was all that, the money wasn't there and he walked. And he did that godawful Men in Black movie. We don't want a Trek of that quality.

I still say they're gonna reboot The Undiscovered Country in 2040.

 

[HIjol]

Without trying to be too much of a Funny Boy, about the only way the PTB could move forward, post 60th (IMO) is to do some kind of Massive Dream Sequence Thingy - a la "The Inner Light".
It would be a hell of a write/re-write, but it might be something.
Maybe more of a limited or min-series format?
With tech like they used in DS9's "Trials and Tribble-ations" (only better, now) conceivably all or most of the characters could be "brought back".

Though it would cost a buck or two...

 

[Set Harth]

The only thing I'd like from Kelvin 4 is to resolve the alternate timeline back into the prime one.

How very Loki.

 

[Ovation]

The only thing I'd like from Kelvin 4 is to resolve the alternate timeline back into the prime one.

All nicely circular, wrapped up and finished.

Yawn.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

The Kelvin Timeline is tainted in the sense that it takes too long to make each film and now can't even hold on to anyone long enough to write and direct the fourth one. And that was before Hollywood went on strike. If they still can't get their act together once the SAG strike is over, probably no one other than diehard Trekkers will even care, and that just won't cut it these days...

I think that’s fan thinking.

Audiences care about Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, John Cho and Karl Urban. Audiences like the basic idea of TOS enough to go and see a movie. We know this because they did it before.

It’s not tainted from the publics point of view. It’s barely present maybe, but hardly tainted.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I think that’s fan thinking.

Audiences care about Chris Pine, Zoe Saldana, John Cho and Karl Urban. Audiences like the basic idea of TOS enough to go and see a movie. We know this because they did it before.

It’s not tainted from the publics point of view. It’s barely present maybe, but hardly tainted.

Actually, that's fan thinking right there. No one outside of Trekdom is eagerly waiting for a fourth Kelvin Timeline movie--heck, even some Trekkers aren't.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Whatever. Think as you wish. I can’t be bothered.