I would have liked to have seen some closure with the Borg.

[EmoVulcan]

They killed his wife, left his son motherless and basically made him pissed for a good while.

I don't know exactly what I would have wanted to see. I just would have preferred to see Sisko's thoughts about them grow or... something.

Some people say the Borg is Voyager territory. Voyager basically ruined the Borg. DS9 should have gotten more then a cameo of them. XP

 

[Navaros]

The DS9 writers like RDM and/or Wolfe etc. have made comments to the effect that they were specifically told to keep their grubby hands off the Borg because the Borg were for Voyager only. But that was okay by them because they liked DS9's villains better anyhow.

So indeed one of the reasons Borg weren't used more in DS9 is because due to Voyager, they wouldn't be allowed to even if they wanted to.

 

[Anthony Sabre]

The first episode, Emissary, was the closure. The worm hole beings went to great length explaining to him how he had never moved beyond that point in his life. To go back and retread conflict with the Borg would have been like undoing that episode to me.

 

[NiteTrek]

They killed his wife, left his son motherless and basically made him pissed for a good while.

I don't know exactly what I would have wanted to see.

Having him hook up with 7 of 9?

 

[PKTrekGirl]

The DS9 writers like RDM and/or Wolfe etc. have made comments to the effect that they were specifically told to keep their grubby hands off the Borg because the Borg were for Voyager only. But that was okay by them because they liked DS9's villains better anyhow.

So indeed one of the reasons Borg weren't used more in DS9 is because due to Voyager, they wouldn't be allowed to even if they wanted to.

I didn't know this...but I'm really glad of it, actually.

The Borg were TNG villains....and part of reason VOY is criticized is that many think it is just a DQ rehash of TNG. A criticism that does have some merit, at times.

Better to have your own villains, IMO.

On VOY, the Borg where not so good - I much preferred the other villains - the ones introduced on VOY.

And on DS9, the Dominion did just fine. No need of the Borg on DS9.

 

[scorpius1701]

How would Sisko gain closure with the Borg? I guess since they have a hive mind, if he gives one drone a tearful hug, hes giving the whole Collective a tearful hug...?

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Perhaps an ironic twist during a battle with the dominion, the borg come out of a transwarp conduate in the middle of the battle and start attacking both

 

[Natural]

I dunno. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I like the Borg and it shouldn't have been too hard to fit them into an episode or two, given the handful of weak scripts we were subject to. I don't think anyone would shed a tear if "Profit and Lace" were replaced with a Borg episode. But on the other hand, I really liked DS9 and it didn't seem to be missing anything. VOY dropped the ball big time with the borg, so carrying over that bad karma to DS9 might not have helped anything. The fanboy in me likes the thought of a Borg cube popping up, given DS9's impressive fleet battles, the Defiant, and even the station itself. But I don't think closure was really needed. Emissary seemed to wrap it up well enough.

 

[Swarles Barkley]

The first episode, Emissary, was the closure. The worm hole beings went to great length explaining to him how he had never moved beyond that point in his life. To go back and retread conflict with the Borg would have been like undoing that episode to me.

Totally agree. That was really the point of that entire first contact with the wormhole aliens. Sisko had to achieve "closure" with what happened for him personally with the Borg in order to become the man (and Emissary) that he would become over the course of the next seven seasons. Revisiting that would have been pointless.

 

[Lindley]

The problem is that once a cube shows up, you have to destroy it. You can't just run away like Voyager could. I suppose they could consign it to the wormhole and make it the Dominion's problem, but that's a stopgap at best.

You can't keep the Borg scary if you can destroy their Cubes utterly. Even Voyager usually didn't do that.

Now, what might have been interesting is using a Borg encroachment on Dominion space as a motivation for their expansion into the Alpha Quadrant. After all, if giving up and going home isn't an option, that puts the entire war in a very different light.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

The problem is that once a cube shows up, you have to destroy it. You can't just run away like Voyager could. I suppose they could consign it to the wormhole and make it the Dominion's problem, but that's a stopgap at best.

You can't keep the Borg scary if you can destroy their Cubes utterly. Even Voyager usually didn't do that.

Now, what might have been interesting is using a Borg encroachment on Dominion space as a motivation for their expansion into the Alpha Quadrant. After all, if giving up and going home isn't an option, that puts the entire war in a very different light.

Very good idea.

WHATS THIS VOYAGER DROPPED THE BALL STUFF???

 

[DanCPA]

Now, what might have been interesting is using a Borg encroachment on Dominion space as a motivation for their expansion into the Alpha Quadrant. After all, if giving up and going home isn't an option, that puts the entire war in a very different light.

Now, this would have been a GGRREEAATT story for the Borg on DS9 which would have made sense. Much like the Iconian episode forced Captain Sisko to work with the Dominion to destroy the renegade Jem Hadar, you could have had a wonderful 3 or 4 episode arc about the Borg attacking the Dominion, and seen the Dominion come and ask the Federation for help. Would have made for some wonderful conversation [which is the worst of 2 evils?] and then eventually the joint Federation-Dominion task force defeating the Borg.

 

[Navaros]

The Dominion would easily kick the Borg's butt all over any Quadrant all on it's own though.

 

[DanCPA]

Voyager's Borg... Easily

But the original Borg... Doubtful. Plus, I doubt the Borg would send a single cube against the entire Dominion

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Now, what might have been interesting is using a Borg encroachment on Dominion space as a motivation for their expansion into the Alpha Quadrant. After all, if giving up and going home isn't an option, that puts the entire war in a very different light.

Now here we have the most compelling argument I've ever read for having the Borg on DS9.

As I said earlier, I'm not a fan of having the Borg on there...but if they had to be there, this would have been a completely acceptable reason to me.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

I can see it now "I am Weyoun of borg, you will disarm all your weapons, and escort us to the founders homeworld, if you attempt to intervene, we will destroy you"

They'd have had a hard time assimilating the founders tho..

 

[DanCPA]

They'd have had a hard time assimilating the founders tho..

I wonder how a founder would be assimilated. They're goo!

 

[Photon]

Sisko channeled thru Adm. Janeway....."avenge me....(raises voice and goes into staccato)....kick...their...f_ _ _ _ _ (now shaking) asses..all..over...that...damn...Delta....Quadrant"

 

[Kegek]

I'd agree with others in that "Emissary" provides the closure; but I'd elaborate further:

His relationship with Picard is the stand-in for any enmity with the Borg. For Sisko, Picard is still what he once was - the face of the Borg. When he's able to be civil and amicable with the Captain at the end of the pilot, he's excorised his demons on precisely this count.

Besides, this is Star Trek. It's not about holding grudges and getting revenge on people, even the Borg.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

They'd have had a hard time assimilating the founders tho..

I wonder how a founder would be assimilated. They're goo!

It just occured to me...if they did manage to assimilate one, turn her/him into a Locutis like deal, woudl't she/he be able to order the jemhadar to surrender?