I wonder how homosexuals feel about...

[DiSiLLUSiON]

whereas a chick in a skirt will get looked at, regardless of her face.

Yes. And a guy without shirt will get look at, regardless of his face. I've seen you gals do it; just confess!

 

[SPOCKED]

Women who have been "generously provided for" often talk about the fact that most men they encounter on the street look at their breasts before anything else. But let me tell you, most women I encounter on the street look at my crotch (or butt, depending on which way they come from) before anything else; sure, when they reach my face the attention will hang there, but it begins down there. When it's cold, the attention quickly turns to something else. When it's hot outside, they usually keep staring. As if they literally see a dick walking by. It's kinda funny.

The butt, yes. People check out butts. It's quick and easy and there's lots of hotness there. Chicks, correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't notice you checking out crotches all that much, unless the guy is presenting himself in a way that draws attention to whatever he has going on down there.

Women are turned on by good looks too, maybe not as much as men, but for the most part, I would say looks mean less.

A guy will take a lot of personal crap if it comes in a hot package. Girls seem far more interested in certain personality traits. A hot body may get the door open, but if you stand in the doorway all whiny, weak, wussy and lame your ass ain't getting invited in, whereas a guy will listen to a chick bawl for hours if he thinks there's wet dick at the end of it.

This exchange is just one example (in this thread) of what T'Bonz meant when she said less locker talk when she spoke on sexism. End it here, or I will close this thread. If you can't discuss the subject without this type of language... that's your problem.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Because all they care about is banging a chick. Sorry, but there are more important things to worry about.

It all depends on your motivations at the time, though. My flings didn't have to have a good face or personality. My girlfriend, however, does. And I know chicks who have quite a record; faces or personalities don't count much for them, either, until they want more then a simple fling.

 

[RoJoHen]

Can't we do both?

Not the way you set up the original scenario.

Ah, you meant w/the girl, more important things to worry about in a partner than just sex. I'm with you now. At first, I thought you meant just there are things more important in the world, like we had to end hunger or something before we can get laid.

Oh no, just that if a guy's ultimate goal is to have sex with a hot girl just because she's a hot girl, he needs to reconsider his priorities, especially if the hot girl is annoying the hell out of him.

 

[ThankQ]

If a good looking guy walks by, I tend to look at the face.

I haven't met too many women who see a guy and look at his package or his ass. It's usually the face first, whereas a chick in a skirt will get looked at, regardless of her face.

The part of a woman that catches my attention--her breasts. I don't know why I do this, but sometimes I can't help staring at her chest when having a conversation with a woman. This is really awkward because I keep telling myself, "Stop that!" I believe it's a subconscious action, probably the straight guy in me.

It's the something in you, who knows.

I'm one of the few (there are others) straight guys I know who just really doesn't care about breasts. They don't do shit for me. They don't excite me. They're just no big deal. In fact, I would choose smaller breasts (or practically no breasts) over larger ones.

 

[ThankQ]

Not the way you set up the original scenario.

Ah, you meant w/the girl, more important things to worry about in a partner than just sex. I'm with you now. At first, I thought you meant just there are things more important in the world, like we had to end hunger or something before we can get laid.

Oh no, just that if a guy's ultimate goal is to have sex with a hot girl just because she's a hot girl, he needs to reconsider his priorities, especially if the hot girl is annoying the hell out of him.

Well, if I recall correctly, you think all forms of non-in-love sex are wrong.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

Oh no, just that if a guy's ultimate goal is to have sex with a hot girl just because she's a hot girl, he needs to reconsider his priorities, especially if the hot girl is annoying the hell out of him.

I agree. There are lots of hot girls out there who don't have an annoying personality. Having sex without any attachments is never a bad thing if both sides agree to it; love don't has to enter the equation, after all. But someone who severely dislikes another but still puts up with it for simple sex, well, seems a bit of a waste of energy to me. If you still want to, you can always try to simply not talk, if all you're doing is having sex anyway.

 

[RoJoHen]

Ah, you meant w/the girl, more important things to worry about in a partner than just sex. I'm with you now. At first, I thought you meant just there are things more important in the world, like we had to end hunger or something before we can get laid.

Oh no, just that if a guy's ultimate goal is to have sex with a hot girl just because she's a hot girl, he needs to reconsider his priorities, especially if the hot girl is annoying the hell out of him.

Well, if I recall correctly, you think all forms of non-in-love sex are wrong.

You do not recall correctly, nor do I have any idea where you would have gotten that idea.

 

[ThankQ]

^It was someone else then. My bad.

 

[Uncle Sol]

How about an experiment. Next time you want to express your disapproval over a situation use another identifiable group instead of gays. See what your friends say when you use the term "That's so Asian".

That would be confusing since "Asian" is not used in a pejorative sense.

I understand what you mean, but I think you're missing the point.

Why are gays allowed to be used in such a manner but not Asians?

If I decided that Asian was also a term for stupid/wrong/bad would that make it okay for me to use?

 

[sidious618]

A guy will take a lot of personal crap if it comes in a hot package. Girls seem far more interested in certain personality traits. A hot body may get the door open, but if you stand in the doorway all whiny, weak, wussy and lame your ass ain't getting invited in, whereas a guy will listen to a chick bawl for hours if he thinks there's wet dick at the end of it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I talked about how conversations like this can go off the deep end. Congrats, you just brought it to that point.

 

[Cakes488]

Women who have been "generously provided for" often talk about the fact that most men they encounter on the street look at their breasts before anything else. But let me tell you, most women I encounter on the street look at my crotch (or butt, depending on which way they come from) before anything else; sure, when they reach my face the attention will hang there, but it begins down there. When it's cold, the attention quickly turns to something else. When it's hot outside, they usually keep staring. As if they literally see a dick walking by. It's kinda funny.

The butt, yes. People check out butts. It's quick and easy and there's lots of hotness there. Chicks, correct me if I'm wrong, but I really don't notice you checking out crotches all that much, unless the guy is presenting himself in a way that draws attention to whatever he has going on down there.

Women are turned on by good looks too, maybe not as much as men, but for the most part, I would say looks mean less.

A guy will take a lot of personal crap if it comes in a hot package. Girls seem far more interested in certain personality traits. A hot body may get the door open, but if you stand in the doorway all whiny, weak, wussy and lame your ass ain't getting invited in, whereas a guy will listen to a chick bawl for hours if he thinks there's wet dick at the end of it.

Well we do check out crotches...but it has to be noticeable. Just this morning on the train...there was a guy across the way...sitting..older man...not attractive but I could see nutsacks (I'm sorry I'm so disgusting) ...so anyway I did look a few times and I have my sunglasses on so...

But that was it then...I looked away and went about my business which is fall asleep. You guys would have one eye open checking the chick out the whole time. And by one eye you know "who I mean".

I'm turned on by looks. I'm sorry but if I'm not attracted to the person nothing can happen. Most of us are like that....let's cut the crap...there has to be an attraction...it's biology.

 

[Gryffindorian]

How about an experiment. Next time you want to express your disapproval over a situation use another identifiable group instead of gays. See what your friends say when you use the term "That's so Asian".

That would be confusing since "Asian" is not used in a pejorative sense.

I understand what you mean, but I think you're missing the point.

Why are gays allowed to be used in such a manner but not Asians?

If I decided that Asian was also a term for stupid/wrong/bad would that make it okay for me to use?

Hypothetically speaking, no. I suspect, however, that those who are offended by "That's so gay" are mostly likely offended by the very mention of "gay" or "homosexual" anyway, and that I will never understand. Political correctness is nice and all, but being thick-skinned sometimes and not overly sensitive about such minor things will serve you well in life. If people decide to be unhappy about it, that's their problem, not mine.

 

[RAMA]

My friends used to say that when I was 10...and that was 29 years ago. Its nothing new.

If a good looking guy walks by, I tend to look at the face.

I haven't met too many women who see a guy and look at his package or his ass. It's usually the face first, whereas a chick in a skirt will get looked at, regardless of her face.

The part of a woman that catches my attention--her breasts. I don't know why I do this, but sometimes I can't help staring at her chest when having a conversation with a woman. This is really awkward because I keep telling myself, "Stop that!" I believe it's a subconscious action, probably the straight guy in me.

Women look at my chest all the time, for example...I was hot today and its humid so I unbuttoned 2 buttons instead of one...well...one of the guys where I was working asked it I was hot or just showing off. I must have easily had 25 "peeks".

RAMA

 

[Gryffindorian]

^ You're such a tease, RAMA. Geez, even I can see your chest from home.

 

[DonIago]

If nothing else, I believe this thread has established that a significant portion of the population, gay or otherwise, feels that, "That's so gay!" isn't really a cool thing to say even if it isn't intended to associate homosexuality with stupidity et al.

As a gay person, I don't care to hear it myself. Maybe when homosexuality is more commonly accepted that will change, but for now, when I hear it, it is difficult for me not to associate it with homophobia, and if one of my friends were to say such a thing I'd likely pull them aside to discuss their vocabulary.

 

[Thespeckledkiwi]

Along these lines...fag is well still used a lot and it doesn't carry a heavy tone.

 

[sidious618]

Along these lines...fag is well still used a lot and it doesn't carry a heavy tone.

If you call a gay person a fag it certainly does.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Along these lines...fag is well still used a lot and it doesn't carry a heavy tone.

Really? Call me a fag and it won't be pretty dude. That's really offensive.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I don't like it, personally. I am not homosexual but I find it very offensive. You would not use race or nationality in place of sexual orientation and get away with it...I don't think this is right either.