I want to talk about the grifters

[Campe]

RMB is as much as a grifter as Doomcock.

Yep. I said his name.

 

[Turtletrekker]

He also called the Discovery episode with the Guardian of Forever the worst thing ever that destroyed canon.

Not only that, rather than let fans decide for themselves, he spoiled the reveal in advance. That's some seriously petty ass bullshit right there.

 

[Lord Garth]

My take on what I'll think of PIC Season 3 is based on mathematics. I like PIC Seasons 1-2 better than the TNG Movies, therefore I'll like PIC Season 3 better than the TNG Movies. I also expect to like whatever their take on the TNG characters is.

But if someone hasn't liked PIC so far, then I understand why they wouldn't be looking forward to PIC Season 3.

RMB thinks he’s an authority when it comes to what Trek is and what isn’t. He’s constantly bragging about projects he worked on like as if this gives his opinion any kind of extra merit. The only thing that gives him an edge is that he has seen season 3 - but that simply means that he has seen it and that he thinks it’s great. That’s nothing more than his opinion. And yet, as always, he’s acting like as if it is a fact.

Sadly not just an RMB thing.

 

[James Cole]

Personally, 'Coomdock's' and RMB's opinions mean nothing to me. I didn't like the first two seasons of PIC and I have no illusions that S3 is going to be any better, despite having the TNG cast involved. But I'm still going to watch it and make up my own mind. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not so far.

The goal of RMB and some of the other YouTube influencers who have seen season 3 is to try and get people that have already written off NuTrek entirely, and disengaged from the franchise, to give this one another chance. The spoilers they have released have been targeted at this audience. Give it 30-40 minutes... Picard and Riker sound like Picard and Riker. The tone feels like Star Trek. Terry Matalas is different and has a from-within-the-franchise perspective. Behind the scenes people from the Berman era are back. Raffi is actually great this time. If enough people try it and like it, we might get more Star Trek from Matalas in this style.

If someone who claims to have hated every Star Trek production since 2009, including Picard Seasons 1 and 2, is saying Season 3 is great, then something different has has happened with this season compared to everything that came before it.

Maybe it just has something he personally enjoys that was missing from previous seasons.

So that doesn't mean everyone who disliked Seasons 1 and 2 will like this season, maybe just those who like the same things RMB does.

RMB does like Prodigy...

After season two and knowing it's much the same creative team making season 3, my hopes are pretty much zero. So hopefully whatever happens, I won't be disappointed.

Fair enough. Most of the writers are the same. But Akiva Goldsman and the executives that apparently interfered in the beginning of season 2 are gone. Most of S2E01 "The Star Gazer" was filmed at the end of season 2 and had the strongest influence of Matalas. So that might give the best example of what might be expected in season 3. Did you like that episode?

 

[Gul Sengosts]

My take on what I'll think of PIC Season 3 is based on mathematics. I like PIC Seasons 1-2 better than the TNG Movies, therefore I'll like PIC Season 3 better than the TNG Movies.

Maths, hmm... let's see what maths say about how I'll like season 3.

PIC S1 = 7/10
PIC S2 = 2/10
PIC S3 = -3/10

Uh oh...

 

[The Old Mixer]

The "grifters" don't get their own topic here.