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I want to get drunk and make out with someone

How do you mean?

All this talk you have going on with fast sex, and how to get girls into bed, and the psychology behind getting girls, and your insights into what you think they really think, as opposed to what they say... all of it rather offensive, overly-sexualised, archaic, locker-room, stereotypes. The implication of some of your words also being that every guy who doesn't think or act like this must not have "courage", and needs help and tips from other guys who get girls, really really fast. :rolleyes:

Basically mouthing off word for word about the Pick-up artist techniques and views. Some guys seem to have swallowed this book and made it their bible. It's becoming tiresome and quite offensive.

It's one of those weird things, guys don't understand women, women don't understand guys, each thinks their own gender is easy to understand and the other difficult. So stereotype spring up as explanation.
And they're stereotypes because a lot of the time they seem right. But then reality TV is popular, Tabloids are popular, and there are plenty of reasons to think of them as lowest common denominator and stupid. So you could say all TV and media is lowest common denominator judging from that, and there is in fact a stereotype to that.

But yeah, judging all women to want the bad boys, and all guys to have a one track mind is offensive and pointless but there are occasions when the shoe fits.
 
It's one of those weird things, guys don't understand women, women don't understand guys, each thinks their own gender is easy to understand and the other difficult. So stereotype spring up as explanation.
And they're stereotypes because a lot of the time they seem right. But then reality TV is popular, Tabloids are popular, and there are plenty of reasons to think of them as lowest common denominator and stupid. So you could say all TV and media is lowest common denominator judging from that, and there is in fact a stereotype to that.

But yeah, judging all women to want the bad boys, and all guys to have a one track mind is offensive and pointless but there is occasions when the shoe fits.

Yeah, the stereotypes hit both sides equally and it is a huge pain in the ass when it comes to dating.

^ This may be a bit out there, but have you thought about someone you don't have to pay? They do lots.

I don't understand the question.
 
How do you mean?

All this talk you have going on with fast sex, and how to get girls into bed, and the psychology behind getting girls, and your insights into what you think they really think, as opposed to what they say... all of it rather offensive, overly-sexualised, archaic, locker-room, stereotypes. The implication of some of your words also being that every guy who doesn't think or act like this must not have "courage", and needs help and tips from other guys who get girls, really really fast. :rolleyes:

Basically mouthing off word for word about the Pick-up artist techniques and views. Some guys seem to have swallowed this book and made it their bible. It's becoming tiresome and quite offensive.

Well, I've never heard of the show of which you speak, but I'm aware of the new "pick up artist" community of books and vids and such.

Now, you don't know me it all. That's fine. But if you did, you'd know the last thing I am is an archaic, locker-room stereotype.

The implication of some of your words also being that every guy who doesn't think or act like this must not have "courage"

Well, you're obviously just reading what you want to read and thinking what you want to think; you're not reading what I wrote, and I specifically wrote that courage is something you DO, not something you HAVE. And what did I say to possibly suggest it was "EVERY" guy, as you seem to have extrapolated from what I said?

Where have I said anything about "fast sex"? Guys want to date women for a variety of reasons, yes, including fast sex, but there are so many other motives. Who are any of us to say that one reason for wanting a relationship is offensive and another is acceptable?

Are you judging as wrong the men who are after a quick score?

There are, in fact, men who lack confidence with women, and confidence is in fact an very important factor with the majority of women when it comes to being attracted to a man.
 
Yes, you may be right on some fronts, but is there any need to be so brutal and kind of almost humiliate folks in public? Calling guys liars and telling them they're not "doing" courage and such... you're basically calling people wimps if they don't do it your way. You might have meant it to be friendly, but it doesn't come across that way.
 
Yes, you may be right on some fronts, but is there any need to be so brutal and kind of almost humiliate folks in public? Calling guys liars and telling them they're not "doing" courage and such... you're basically calling people wimps if they don't do it your way. You might have meant it to be friendly, but it doesn't come across that way.

Considering he was talking about having sexual dreams about members of this board I wouldn't worry about him all that much.
 
Yes, you may be right on some fronts, but is there any need to be so brutal and kind of almost humiliate folks in public? Calling guys liars and telling them they're not "doing" courage and such... you're basically calling people wimps if they don't do it your way. You might have meant it to be friendly, but it doesn't come across that way.
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.
 
Yeah, that's what made me post actually. Got too much right there. A bit warped. Especially since this is supposed to be a PG13 place.
 
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.

Sad thing is, my mom gave me the exact opposite advice that ThankQ was talking about. I'm turning 20 next week (I like gift cards!) and mymom told me a few weeks ago that I should date women but not view them as anything but someone to "explore" and "get through any issues I may have with" and not try and get attached or too connected with them.

My mother gives terrible advice.
 
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.

Sad thing is, my mom gave me the exact opposite advice that ThankQ was talking about. I'm turning 20 next week (I like gift cards!) and mymom told me a few weeks ago that I should date women but not view them as anything but someone to "explore" and "get through any issues I may have with" and not try and get attached or too connected with them.

My mother gives terrible advice.

Guess it's the same type of advice an ex of mine got from her mother. "Boyfriends are for now. Friends are forever." What bollocks, she nearly dumped me for telling her friends to fuck off when she was seriously ill (ended up in hospital) and her friends were basically emotionally blackmailing her to go out that night.
 
Yes, you may be right on some fronts, but is there any need to be so brutal and kind of almost humiliate folks in public? Calling guys liars and telling them they're not "doing" courage and such... you're basically calling people wimps if they don't do it your way. You might have meant it to be friendly, but it doesn't come across that way.
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.


Yeah, that's what made me post actually. Got too much right there. A bit warped. Especially since this is supposed to be a PG13 place.

I totally understand that. Many people are offended when it's pointed out that their mother has actually had sex in her life. :rolleyes:

Perhaps the kind thing to do is what many have done, and feed guys age-old cliches about "finding the right one" and "you just haven't met her yet" and "fish in the sea" and all that.

I find that to be offensive. While well-meaning people hash and rehash these tried-and-failed bits of advice, the thinking man may be lead to ask, "Well, why am I supposed to sit around and wait for the 'right one' while it seems that so many other guys find many women with whom to pursue whatever their relationship goals are?"

If my delivery seems brisk, well, I don't sugarcoat. There are many men who don't want to be alone, but they are, and they haven't figured out why. I can be delicate, or I can be truthful as I know to be.

As for the board being "PG-13", it is so loosely, and I fail to see where I crossed that line, anyway. A bland ten-word description of a sexual encounter, about an unassigned "mom", that uses no vulgarity whatsoever is now indecent?
 
Yes, you may be right on some fronts, but is there any need to be so brutal and kind of almost humiliate folks in public? Calling guys liars and telling them they're not "doing" courage and such... you're basically calling people wimps if they don't do it your way. You might have meant it to be friendly, but it doesn't come across that way.
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.


Yeah, that's what made me post actually. Got too much right there. A bit warped. Especially since this is supposed to be a PG13 place.

I totally understand that. Many people are offended when it's pointed out that their mother has actually had sex in her life. :rolleyes:

Perhaps the kind thing to do is what many have done, and feed guys age-old cliches about "finding the right one" and "you just haven't met her yet" and "fish in the sea" and all that.

I find that to be offensive. While well-meaning people hash and rehash these tried-and-failed bits of advice, the thinking man may be lead to ask, "Well, why am I supposed to sit around and wait for the 'right one' while it seems that so many other guys finds many women to with whom to pursue whatever their relationship goals are."

If my delivery seems brisk, well, I don't sugarcoat. There are many men who don't want to be alone, but they are, and they haven't figured out why. I can be delicate, or I can be truthful as I know to be.

As for the board being "PG-13", it is so loosely, and I fail to see where I crossed that line, anyway. A bland ten-word description of a sexual encounter, about an unassigned "mom", that uses no vulgarity whatsoever is now indecent?

Look, I'm not easy to offend, and to be honest that didn't offend me personally, but I can definitely see how it can be offensive, and let's be honest you weren't saying "your mom had sex" you were saying "your mom is forgetting to tell you she was a bit of a slag in her younger days".

Besides you're not saying just saying "get out there and find her" you're saying "You're being an idiot now stop being a dick, and try to pick up some chicks." Which isn't particularly helpful when he's said he likes to be friends with someone before deciding to date.
 
I agree, sounds incredibly insulting, especially the stuff about "loving mom" then going on about "mom" getting banged on the hood of a car.


Yeah, that's what made me post actually. Got too much right there. A bit warped. Especially since this is supposed to be a PG13 place.

I totally understand that. Many people are offended when it's pointed out that their mother has actually had sex in her life. :rolleyes:

Perhaps the kind thing to do is what many have done, and feed guys age-old cliches about "finding the right one" and "you just haven't met her yet" and "fish in the sea" and all that.

I find that to be offensive. While well-meaning people hash and rehash these tried-and-failed bits of advice, the thinking man may be lead to ask, "Well, why am I supposed to sit around and wait for the 'right one' while it seems that so many other guys finds many women to with whom to pursue whatever their relationship goals are."

If my delivery seems brisk, well, I don't sugarcoat. There are many men who don't want to be alone, but they are, and they haven't figured out why. I can be delicate, or I can be truthful as I know to be.

As for the board being "PG-13", it is so loosely, and I fail to see where I crossed that line, anyway. A bland ten-word description of a sexual encounter, about an unassigned "mom", that uses no vulgarity whatsoever is now indecent?

Look, I'm not easy to offend, and to be honest that didn't offend me personally, but I can definitely see how it can be offensive, and let's be honest you weren't saying "your mom had sex" you were saying "your mom is forgetting to tell you she was a bit of a slag in her younger days".

I'm saying "some random lady who doesn't actually exist" had hot sex when she was young.

How anyone can be offended by that is beyond understanding.

Besides you're not saying just saying "get out there and find her" you're saying "You're being an idiot now stop being a dick, and try to pick up some chicks."

I did? I can't find it.
 
I totally understand that. Many people are offended when it's pointed out that their mother has actually had sex in her life. :rolleyes:

Perhaps the kind thing to do is what many have done, and feed guys age-old cliches about "finding the right one" and "you just haven't met her yet" and "fish in the sea" and all that.

I find that to be offensive. While well-meaning people hash and rehash these tried-and-failed bits of advice, the thinking man may be lead to ask, "Well, why am I supposed to sit around and wait for the 'right one' while it seems that so many other guys finds many women to with whom to pursue whatever their relationship goals are."

If my delivery seems brisk, well, I don't sugarcoat. There are many men who don't want to be alone, but they are, and they haven't figured out why. I can be delicate, or I can be truthful as I know to be.

As for the board being "PG-13", it is so loosely, and I fail to see where I crossed that line, anyway. A bland ten-word description of a sexual encounter, about an unassigned "mom", that uses no vulgarity whatsoever is now indecent?

Look, I'm not easy to offend, and to be honest that didn't offend me personally, but I can definitely see how it can be offensive, and let's be honest you weren't saying "your mom had sex" you were saying "your mom is forgetting to tell you she was a bit of a slag in her younger days".

I'm saying "some random lady who doesn't actually exist" had hot sex when she was young.

How anyone can be offended by that is beyond understanding.
Not at all offensive when you're phrasing it under the assumption his mother told him to be nice to women, and forgot to tell him she was out getting fucked on the hood of a car...

Besides you're not saying just saying "get out there and find her" you're saying "You're being an idiot now stop being a dick, and try to pick up some chicks."
I did? I can't find it.

With all this about waiting for the right one, and "doing" the courage to go out there and ask people, sure, just not in so many words.
 
Wow, I go to bed, and this thread gets a whole lot angrier.

I had no intention for this to turn into one of the whiny "I can't get a girlfriend" threads. But here's a little backstory for ya just for shits and giggles.

I said it's been 3 years since I last had sex. It has also been 3 years since I met a girl I was even remotely interested in. I took her out one night after work. We had a lot of fun. We ended up in bed together.

Since then, I honestly have not met one girl (who was also single) that I had any interest in pursuing any kind of relationship with. If I do meet a girl that I am interested in, you better believe I'll pursue it. However, I have never once become attracted to a girl immediately upon meeting her. I have to get to know her first before that happens. I can't see a girl and think, "Oh yeah, she's hot, I wanna fuck her." My brain just doesn't work that way.

This thread was spawned more from my nostalgia for college parties than anything. Since my friends and I all moved into our own places, it's become harder to go out and have fun. Plus, in college, we were always the ones who threw parties, so if you were going to hook up with a girl, all you had to do was take her upstairs to your bedroom. Things were simpler.
 
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