Yeah, I hate having to sit through "A Charlie Brown Hanukkah," "The Maccabees are Coming to Town," and "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Jew Reindeer" every year.
"Downright scary," indeed.
I Want a Doctor Who Hanukkah Special!
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Yeah, I hate having to sit through "A Charlie Brown Hanukkah," "The Maccabees are Coming to Town," and "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Jew Reindeer" every year.
"Downright scary," indeed.
The Doctor only cares for camera phones that are $20 less.
The only people who think there are holiday controversies are conservative Christians who are upset that everyone doesn't share their beliefs.
Ouch.. And SO not true...
Yes, Christians (and not just conservative Christians) bristle at the thought of the dumbing down, PCing of Christmas...
And yes yes yes, Christmas, while the recognition of the birth of Christ, surrounds an already established pagen holiday, blah blah blah...
But when businesses and the like go from being able to say "Merry Christmas" to "Season's greetings" only, that's a bit much... And it's not just recent.. I worked at a retail clothes place back in the late 80's and we had to make the switch then...
A local radio station is running "ads" that say instead of saying Merry Christmas, they now have to say "Have a good one!"..
Yes, Christians (and not just conservative Christians) bristle at the thought of the dumbing down, PCing of Christmas...
And yes yes yes, Christmas, while the recognition of the birth of Christ, surrounds an already established pagen holiday, blah blah blah...
But when businesses and the like go from being able to say "Merry Christmas" to "Season's greetings" only, that's a bit much... And it's not just recent.. I worked at a retail clothes place back in the late 80's and we had to make the switch then...
A local radio station is running "ads" that say instead of saying Merry Christmas, they now have to say "Have a good one!"..
Ah, "PC." The catchall insult for any acknowledgment of people who don't share majority characteristics. As though including people who celebrate holidays other than Christmas somehow "dumbs down" the holiday itself.
"Able to say" and "Have to say." As though the Christmas police are monitoring radio ads and customer service desks to make sure that the C-word is never spoken.A local radio station is running "ads" that say instead of saying Merry Christmas, they now have to say "Have a good one!"..
What's actually happening is that some businesses are choosing to go with non-specific holiday greetings and whatnot, for the fairly obvious reason that there are more people who will feel excluded by "Merry Christmas" than will get indignant over "Happy Holidays," and because it's worse PR to explicitly ignore a minority than to fail to cater to a powerful majority. Which Christians still are, of course.
Topic... topic. Ah.
A little Googling suggests that one of the novelizations had Tegan's father being Jewish, possibly in an attempt to explain her surname, but that wouldn't necessarily mean she was.
a Jewish holiday in December.
yeah that much my RE skipping self guessed.
Where is this happening? I keep reading about this supposed social ban on saying "Merry Christmas", on internet forums, but it's not something that I've ever encountered in real life.
Could it be that some people are just whinging for the sake of whinging?
I think here in the UK it happened once or twice by newly opened shopping centres over the last 20 years, and now tabloids, or idiots read about on the net and it's a "war on christmas" or something. But I think it's a more common thing in the US.
Weird. Hell, I'm a card-carrying atheist. Say "christmas" or "happy holidays" or "may your sacrificial goat spurt with vigour", it's all the same to me.
no know they should do a Doctor Who episode, where the Doctor lands in an alt reality (or damm them cutting off all the alt reality's, but I will continue) in which all those stories are true. Mention of all religion is banned, gender, race & sexuality are a thing of the past, and people eat a diet which has been approved by the government, meanwhile all kids are raised by the state, allowing the kids parents to work all the hours god sends for the overly large government, or private companys.
Hang on why not do it on another planet, and we can totally rip off TNG
Hang on why not do it on another planet, and we can totally rip off TNG
hang on did I read this right?
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How on Earth does acknowledging that not everyone celebrates Christmas constitute dumbing it down or PCing it?
1. No one is forcing those businesses to do that. There's no law requiring it. In fact, their choice to do either one is protected by the First Amendment.
2. This is not being done to insult Christians. It's being done because 20% of the US population is non-Christian, and that 20% is growing whilst the Christian population is shrinking. America is undergoing a demographic shift -- eventually, NO ONE religion is going to have a majority of the population. Now, why should a business cater to the religious/holiday sensibilities of only 80% of their customers when doing so often comes across as being exclusionary to the other 20%? Why should Christians get preferential treatment? Why SHOULDN'T businesses be more inclusive and wish EVERYONE a happy WHATEVER holiday they celebrate? Isn't it far more American to be inclusive of everyone? And, for that matter, isn't it far more Christian to behave towards non-Christians with love by wishing them happiness, too?
You're just upset because Christians are starting to lose their preferential treatment and may have to face genuine equality.
Well, maybe 'companion' was the wrong word. I was thinking more along the lines of one of the one-shot character that we generally see in the Christmas specials.
Barrign that, just a throwaway scene of the Doctor passing someone one the street and wishing them a 'happy Haukkah' would be fun.
Well, yes and no. I was agreeing with you up to that point.
I'm a Christian, and in Christmas time, I usually wish people "merry Christmas". I don't say that because I want to wash their brain and force them to adhere to my weird cult, I don't say that because I'm part of a conspiracy dedicated to negating the right of minorities to celebrate whatever they want to celebrate, I say that because it's Christmas and I want people to feel merry. If they get offended by that, honestly, it's their problem.
This card-carrying atheist is inclined to agree.
Honestly, what's in a name? Most people are celebrating something at the end of the year, even if it's just a couple of days off work. Where's the beef? Happy Long-Weekend everyone!
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