I think I see the source of the trouble here: "Star Trek: Picard" hasn't aired yet. What you saw was just the trailer, not the actual show.
I preferred the Prime timeline.
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I think I see the source of the trouble here: "Star Trek: Picard" hasn't aired yet. What you saw was just the trailer, not the actual show.
So, you can determine what is and isn’t addressed by a single line in a trailer in a 2 second appearance of a character we haven’t seen in nearly two decades.
Amazing super power.
For all we know we may get a flashback episode showing the fallout of all things Borg after Voyager Endgame, including what happened to Seven and Hugh and how Picard met her for the first time.
We know there will be a flashback with Picard in uniform.
However, this is just speculation based on something that could be anything. So don’t get your hopes up just yet.... or your despairs.
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We’re ignoring the fact that, as a viewer, we’ve only seen Seven for about 4 of the 25 years [or so] that she has spent among humans, then? Because surely she should be the same person she was by the end of those first four years, right?
Makes perfect sense!
Really. That would be awesome. But, from what I can see, their uniforms are dark blue, not like the ones in TOS and the Cage. If they were set within this time frame, then their uniforms should be consistent. I'm very hard line on canon, but maybe there's no longer canon.
Discovery encounters the Enterprise, NCC-1701, at the tail end of the first season and the Enterprise shows up in the second season. They have TOS-ish uniforms.
The TNG and DS9 Uniforms co-existed for a while. It's the same case with these.
I suspect you haven't watched or don't remember the first episode of DSC. Micheal Burnham says the year is 2256. She also contacts Sarek. Yes, that Sarek.
The #1 hang-up people who hate DSC seem to have is that they dared to make Burnham be Spock's foster-sister. Firmly 23rd Century.
Maybe you don't accept DSC as Prime. But that still doesn't make it Kelvin and it sure doesn't mean it's set in the 22nd Century. This is all Kitchen Sink stuff that you're running through. "Isn't it this? I thought it was that!" It's none of those things.
Nope. That's not how canon works.
Even in Season 7, she was starting to sound and act more 'human' in some circumstances.
I went to my 20-year high school reunion a few years ago and most people weren't the same as they were before. A few people were, but they're hopeless.
I wouldn't get so hung up on what's "prime" timeline and what's not. We are just in a new third era of Star Trek and TV production expectations for better or worse.
As it stands there are 28 seasons of live action, TAS, and 10 movies that fit into the first two eras of Star Trek that I personally enjoy more and choose to rewatch on a regular basis. Throw in the "Destiny timeline" relaunch novels from 1999-2019 and a few earlier novels for good measure of my preferred Star Trek. You can choose whatever you enjoy because none of this really matters.
Even if I don't enjoy the the Kelvin timeline movies, Discovery, or even the other new upcoming shows as much it doesn't mean I'm not glad there is still Star Trek content being produced after 55+ years.
As it stands there are 28 seasons of live action, TAS, and 10 movies that fit into the first two eras of Star Trek that I personally enjoy more and choose to rewatch on a regular basis. Throw in the "Destiny timeline" relaunch novels from 1999-2019 and a few earlier novels for good measure of my preferred Star Trek. You can choose whatever you enjoy because none of this really matters.
Even if I don't enjoy the the Kelvin timeline movies, Discovery, or even the other new upcoming shows as much it doesn't mean I'm not glad there is still Star Trek content being produced after 55+ years.
I think I see the source of the trouble here: "Star Trek: Picard" hasn't aired yet. What you saw was just the trailer, not the actual show.
Are you new to the internet?
If you watch a trailer of a movie or tv show, you can judge It.
Like i have seen pictures and trailer of ''It'', so I know exactly if the movie is good or bad
Well, gosh, I should have considered that really should know everything about everything about the characters we haven’t seen in decades based on the 2:09 we spent back with these characters again. Silly me.
It’s crazy to suggest that all information is going to be downloaded in that time. It makes sense that after a time, Seven would grow out of her Borg tendencies the more time she spends with humans. She was no longer a drone. During her time on Voyager, she started to show more human tendencies. That trend would continue, one would think. I have no problem with it, can use my brain to connect the dots and can accept that due to the passage of time and being in a new environment can change people. Even if they don’t explicitly explain it in the series, one could draw a similar conclusion without it being spelled out for them. Regardless, because apparently it’s not canon until someone says it onscreen, I imagine that they will say something to that regard.
Yep - People being *just the same* twenty years later is a bad thing not a good thing.
For someone like Seven, who we only saw right at the sort of her personal development after being freed from the borg, then we'd expect to see significant change...
Their idea of continuity and our idea of continuity aren't the same. Their idea is a LOT looser, to the point they've retconned the look and technology of Kirk's era and the classic USS Enterprise. For example, this is Captain Pike in his Enterprise uniform:
But they do an episode that's a direct sequel to "The Cage", and even do a "previously on..." with clips from the 55-year old pilot episode!
While I treat Discovery as it's own thing (and wish they had just made it a reboot so I could see the Spock/Sarek confrontation season 2 teased), I get that CBS intend it to be a "modernized" prequel to TOS.
Also, the appearance of a Cube quite possibly as a Federation/Romulan prison vessel makes one wonder if the Borg have been completely defeated since we left the 24th century. Cutting off those final vestiges of the Collective could also help in her already burgeoning development.
We haven't seen enough to know how "Borg" she still is...just that she's picked up more human speech patterns and mannerisms in the couple of decades since we last saw her. The same as any one of us might pick up local speech patterns and mannerisms from twenty years of living in a different region or country.
Actually, she was very natural-sounding in "Unimatrix Zero," both when she was a Borg and afterwards. So at least to some extent, it seemed like a matter of defense mechanisms that kept her from loosening up more around her shipmates. But she still also had Borg implants that were meant to suppress high emotional responses (which interfered in her dumb & idiotic relationship with Chakotay), and those had to be removed. In any case, it paved the way for the natural-sounding Seven we heard in the PIC trailer.
That is true. Admittedly it’s been about a decade since I’ve watched Voyager all the way through.
To put it into further perspective: Emotionally, despite her chronological age, she was basically a teenager during VOY. So now, mentally, she'd be 40-ish. So, if at "40" she's still a "teenager", that would be a huge problem.
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Anyway, I'm beginning to see a pattern where "It's the Kelvin Timeline!" is basically becoming another way of saying, "I think this sucks! It'll never be real Star Trek!" It looks to me like it's a new, emerging type of short-hand for bashers to describe all Star Trek made from 2009 on, whether it happens to actually be set in the Kelvin Timeline or not. It's amazing, all these "Bad Robot" productions that Bad Robot has nothing to do with.
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