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I never get tired of watching this.

just a smack in the puss and walk away.

i know what it's like though. i got picked on plenty by kids at school and one time, after having a row with another kid, i turned to walk away and the shit punched me in the back, so i turned around and decked the bastard with about two punches, knelt on his chest and then punched him about 3 more times screaming "why couldn't you let me fucking walk away you prick!" or something similar before a teacher showed up. and that was too far, i admit.
 
I didn't get bullied much--not much of that back then and I somehow managed to avoid a lot of people.

I remember one boy my (short) height picked on me. I grabbed his hair, twisted and pulled down until his head was at the ground. And one time, waiting for the bus a school, someone hit my back. Without fully turning around, I threw a punch, up a bit since they were taller. Got them in the nose. Blood everywhere. Don't know if I broke it. I took off and hid--which meant I missed the bus and the school had to find me. I don't remember much about it.

Another boy picked on me, got his arm at my mouth. So I bit him. I have sharp teeth. No blood though.
 
I attacked another child once. Another boy who had been harassing and bullying me for some time (one of many such children, sadly). I went a bit mad and pummeled him with my fists; it lasted about six seconds before I disengaged and more or less ran off crying. I've rarely been so ashamed. I didn't get into any trouble (the teacher knew what was going on and I was clearly contrite). However, I confused the other boy immensely because I was tearfully asking for his forgiveness, and was visibly upset that I had hurt him. I wasn't addressing him as though I were subordinate, mind you, but as an equal. This just didn't fit into his worldview; like many people, he had an unfortunate tendency to see the social world in terms of power struggles. I'd just demonstrated I was "on top" (however briefly), and my upset was confusing him.

The way I see it: If you use violence or aggression against another child, you merely reinforce their understanding that such a system is successful. They haven't stopped seeing the world in terms of control and power and dominance; it's merely that you've proven dominant (or at least not clearly subordinate). You might not be thinking in those terms (you're probably merely thinking "get off my back!!"), but I'm sure they see it as just another power struggle, ending in a revaluation on their part, a revaluation of your suitability to be dominated. It will probably get them off your back, so I understand entirely if a person is unapologetic for it. It solves your problem, so great, but it doesn't solve the problem.

That other boy never bullied or harassed me again. Part of it was no doubt simply because I had hit him. I'm a pacifist, not an idiot; I'm quite aware hitting someone hard will often convince them not to try attacking you again. But I hope that what really affected him was the confusion that after attacking him I should be asking forgiveness. I met him again a year or so back (two-three years since school ended) and he was quite nice, really. And apologetic, genuinely seeking peace. "I was an asshole, wasn't I?" he said. "Yes, pretty much", I replied.

Again, I hope it was more my response to my violence that affected him, rather than my violence itself. But perhaps I just want to believe that, to try and help me deal with the fact that I attacked another being.
 
I can understand the use of violence after all other options have been exhausted. Yes, try to talk him out of hitting you, but if it isn't going to work, you have to hit back. This is the real world, and people need to be able to take responsibility for their own problems. You can't always run to a teacher, or to mummy.
 
I can understand the use of violence after all other options have been exhausted. Yes, try to talk him out of hitting you, but if it isn't going to work, you have to hit back. This is the real world, and people need to be able to take responsibility for their own problems. You can't always run to a teacher, or to mummy.

I know what you mean, some people just really want to annoy you and they're going to continue doing so until you stand up and spook/scare/frighten/shock them so much they desist. I'm a skateboarder, being doing the sport for nine years, and I was on this halfpipe (in a skate park) and this ten year scooter kept getting in the way (he was without a doubt the most annoying scooter I have ever seen).

Every time I dropped in, he dropped in, I dunno if he wanted to go into me or what. This continued for about thirty minutes, and I finally had it, and when we were both standing on top of the ramp, I snatched the scooter off him, and hoofed my way over to the entrance. I heard him running behind me, but he couldn't catch up with me.

Finally I went to the entrance of the skate park, stopped and gave the kid back his scooter. Except he didn't take it, and ran out of the skate park crying and throwing up a right little tantrum. Anyway I left the kid's scooter where it was and went back skating. The kid never came back to the skate park. Sometimes you don't need to use violence to deal with bullies or people messing around with you...
 
When I was about 8 or 9 I punctured a nasty kid's seat cover with a cocktail stick, and left it sticking out so he sat right on it. He jumped up like somebody had just shoved a really sharp stick right into his backside, because they had, and started crying uncontrollably. Probably didn't help that it was at his own Birthday party.

I was very pleased with the results, although I was sent home in disgrace.
 
Was this in response to being bullied or were you being the bully? It sounds like the latter.

When I was about 8 or 9 I punctured a nasty kid's seat cover with a cocktail stick, and left it sticking out so he sat right on it. He jumped up like somebody had just shoved a really sharp stick right into his backside, because they had, and started crying uncontrollably. Probably didn't help that it was at his own Birthday party.

I was very pleased with the results, although I was sent home in disgrace.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfn4OxCPQs&feature=related

I love this. I'm not saying violence is always the solution but in this case... :lol:

There's already some discussion on this, so I'll keep the thread open, but next time if you're just going to post a video and little to no content just for laughs, post it in the video thread pinned at the top. Especially when it's an old(er) story like this (it was discussed here fairly heavily in multiple threads at the time it happened).
 
Was this in response to being bullied or were you being the bully? It sounds like the latter.

No, we were "friends", in the sense that my mother would make me hang out at his house until she got home from work. But he had repeatedly intimidated me, he never hit me or anything but he was a giant lad and used his strength to hold me down and generally impose his superiority over me on several occasions.

I did not like that, but was not a nark either, so I took my revenge in a manner that would humiliate and hurt him.
 
Okay, without the backstory it has hard to tell.

Was this in response to being bullied or were you being the bully? It sounds like the latter.

No, we were "friends", in the sense that my mother would make me hang out at his house until she got home from work. But he had repeatedly intimidated me, he never hit me or anything but he was a giant lad and used his strength to hold me down and generally impose his superiority over me on several occasions.

I did not like that, but was not a nark either, so I took my revenge in a manner that would humiliate and hurt him.
 
I remember the story when it was "fresh". Did the media ever do any follow ups on that?

I remember seeing interviews about it on some documentary program a few months ago where they had on people who knew the smaller kid (the one who was thrown to the ground in the video) who said that he was actually the victim and that the larger child was the bully, and that they were recording this video because he was finally standing up to his bully, who of course then hurts him anyway. I don't know if this is totally accurate, but just watching a short video it is difficult to understand what the backstory between these two children is, and who is the "bully" and the "bullied" here, or if they are perhaps both "bullies."
 
That kid doing the bullying at the start was a right skinny little geek, who did he think he was? Little prick. He totally had it coming
 
I remember seeing interviews about it on some documentary program a few months ago where they had on people who knew the smaller kid (the one who was thrown to the ground in the video) who said that he was actually the victim and that the larger child was the bully, and that they were recording this video because he was finally standing up to his bully, who of course then hurts him anyway. I don't know if this is totally accurate, but just watching a short video it is difficult to understand what the backstory between these two children is, and who is the "bully" and the "bullied" here, or if they are perhaps both "bullies."

Yes, that was the original story, with both kids+parents appearing on some Australian news programs (with the little kid being far less convincing), but I wondered if there was anything after that. Guess not.
 
^Yeah, I think it's all on youtube. The bully is seriously not convincing, especially given his story and how it (doesn't) mesh with the video. The kid who he says moments before was taunting and pushing him sure doesn't appear to be in taunting or pushing mode in the clip.

While I don't think they both are "bullies", its pretty universal these days that most kids have bullied.
 
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