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I, Mudd - what a stinker

I'm not this episode great fan. The plot was rather boring, actores sometimes overacted, and android's outfits were awful. As for comedy, some jokes were fine (the conversation at the beginning, Spock's mad definition of logic - though I wish he used more paradoxes to explode the android's brains, like "what if Pinocchio says his nose's going to grow now") and others seemed flat and unnatural (almost all attempts to break the androids). The punishment for Mudd supposed to be funny, but it seems cruel for me, though I don't like the character.
 
The problem is that most of the people in the 24th century have NO sense of humor.

I love this episode, and I've been told by a friend that my imitation of Stella Mudd is dead-on! (of course that's not my normal voice... :p)
 
What I thought of it:


"I, Mudd" *

A group of androids hijack the Enterprise and intend to "take care" of humanity.

This is one schizophrenic episode. Granted the TOS cast has always been adept with humour, but this thing is so surreal and absurd that it boggles the mind. Yeah, it has some honestly funny moments, but it's just so over-the-top. This is where the show fell on its face.

These androids are nowhere near as nuanced as Roger Corby's androids in "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" or as Rayna in "Requiem For Methuselah." They're just a cliche and just played for laughs. And it's hard to take their threat seriously because it's all just so stupid.

Even some of the statements made by the characters are dumb. Spock actually says the androids might pull off thier plan. :wtf: A mere 200,000 androids against the population of the Federation as well as allied races??? I don't fucking think so. And they obviously don't understand a thing about humans if they think humanity would just roll over and hand over the keys to everything.

Yeah, it's got a number of laughs in it, but it's so stupid that it offends me as a Star Trek fan and as a science fiction fan.

TOS will recover, but if you didn't know better you'd be forgiven for thinking that this was a moment TOS "jumped the shark." :lol:


Oh, yeah...and Mudd spelled backwards is d, dum.
 
The problem is that most of the people in the 24th century have NO sense of humor.

I love this episode, and I've been told by a friend that my imitation of Stella Mudd is dead-on! (of course that's not my normal voice... :p)
A few in the 21st don't either. ;)
 
^ OK, allow me to amend my statement. "It's just a TV show. Isn't it supposed to be entertaining?" And BTW, good drama is entertaining as well. If you don't find "I, Mudd" entertaining, you don't. There's nothing you or I can do about it, and believe me, I honestly do believe you have a right to your opinon. What I absolutely reject is your premise that dramatic shows should always be dramatic.

No, I just responded to "Shouldn't TV be fun?" and I said no, not always.

I love "I Mudd". I also love "Paradise Syndrome". If good drama is entertaining, then PS is. Anyway, people define "entertaining" so loosely and in so many different ways that I couldn't possibly comment on that.
 
...The 2nd season brought some much needed humor to the series and it was nice for an episode not to involve Kirk about to be killed or a planet about to be destroyed.
Boy do I disagree with this. You can find humor in a situation without making the show a farce. I liked these episodes when I was a kid but I find them stunningly unfunny as an adult.

Yeah, I agree. It's one thing to be funny, but this episode was *stupid*... I love funny. I hate stupid.

100% agree with OP
 
"Plato's Stepchildren" is a serious episode. The scenes that some people think are supposed to be funny are really meant to show Kirk and Spock being humiliated.

I was humiliated.

This was one of a handful of TOS episodes I'd never seen, and I knew some female fanfic readers who often talked about it. This was the one episode my Dad decided he would watch throughout. Then he wanted to know why I was a Star Trek fan.
 
^ Not a fan of "Plato's Stepchildren," either. I don't think it was meant to be funny, which is good because it oh, so definitely isn't. It's horrible in almost every way. I say "almost," but I say that only to cover the slight possibility that it has some minor redeeming characteristic that I've forgotten. The plain fact is that I think of nothing I like about it, not even a little bit.

UnknownSample, I'm sorry I misunderstood you. I still loathe "Paradise Syndrome," though. Besides its more general problems, it has way too much of Shatner being "romantic," always for me a bad, bad thing in an episode.
 
I've long thought "Plato's Stepchildren" gets a bad rap. Yeah, it's disturbing, but "Hello!" it's supposed to be. It's an example of the privileged being their most abusive and exhibiting a damned huge sense of entitlement and superiority.
 
I've long thought "Plato's Stepchildren" gets a bad rap. Yeah, it's disturbing, but "Hello!" it's supposed to be. It's an example of the privileged being their most abusive and exhibiting a damned huge sense of entitlement and superiority.

Yes, and Michael Dunn can't help but be great.
 
This was one of a handful of TOS episodes I'd never seen, and I knew some female fanfic readers who often talked about it. This was the one episode my Dad decided he would watch throughout. Then he wanted to know why I was a Star Trek fan.
Well, it can be dangerous to watch with your parents something fanfic readers often talk about...
 
Re. Plato's,

It has great character moments, acting, sci-fi premise, theme, and yeah, it's supposed to be disturbing.

There is the little bit about being able to synthesize a telekinesis drug which we never hear of again, but hey, not like that's unheard of in Trek.
 
I've long thought "Plato's Stepchildren" gets a bad rap. Yeah, it's disturbing, but "Hello!" it's supposed to be. It's an example of the privileged being their most abusive and exhibiting a damned huge sense of entitlement and superiority.


Agreed, I have yet to really hear a convincing argument as to why this is a poor episode. Mediocre, maybe, but I don't understand why it is so maligned, almost universally.
 
Like I, Mudd the characters act odd in Plato's Stepchildren. which I think is off putting to some fans.
 
Like I, Mudd the characters act odd in Plato's Stepchildren. which I think is off putting to some fans.

Yeah but in Plato's Stepchildren they have no choice, so I can understand it. In I, Mudd, there's no excuse.
 
Like I, Mudd the characters act odd in Plato's Stepchildren. which I think is off putting to some fans.

Yeah but in Plato's Stepchildren they have no choice, I can understand it. In I, Mudd, there's no excuse.
Sure there is. They were messing with Norman's mind/programming. So acting odd and illogical makes perfect sense.

I understand your point, but i think they could have done so in a less lame/trite way.

they were not forced to act like buffoons, they chose too.. sure, it worked, because the script said it did, but to me it just came across as silly and unbelievable in a bad way
 
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