The over-saturation of yellow was because those scenes were while they were in orbit around the Amargosa star; they were trying to go for a natural light effect.
I loved the way the Enterprise-D looked in "Generations"?
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BIGGLES, I think one reason some folks are uncomfortable with the bright yellow through the windows (besides the fact that it wasn't like the series) has to do with the angles at which it was shot. You got a 'bathed in yellow' look in GEN, as opposed 'rimmed in yellow' which is the more conventional approach. I think it was a very TRUTHFUL way of dealing with the light, because in a ship like the -d, a bunch of light coming in the window would bounce right back and wrap around, it wouldn't leave people in silhouette.
It is kind of like the ship model shot in TUC that most people (not me) hate, where it is a view circling the refit which is very front-lit. People always call it the shot where the ship looks like a toy, and I think it is the closest they come to getting a realistic in-system lighting effect in any of the ILM TOS flicks.
It is kind of like the ship model shot in TUC that most people (not me) hate, where it is a view circling the refit which is very front-lit. People always call it the shot where the ship looks like a toy, and I think it is the closest they come to getting a realistic in-system lighting effect in any of the ILM TOS flicks.
It wasn't the lighting as much as it was the perspective and lens size with the camera movement. It is the same problem most of the TOS ILM shots.
It was never like that in the series. And consiering that it was happening around a STAR you'd think everyone on the ship would've gotten blinded from the intense light. It's always been implied or suggested to me in the series though that either there's a function in the ship's windows or perhaps a component of the deflector that "filters out"/down the light of a star so that it is tollerable to look at.
The effect used in Generations is just too much and dramatic and is jolting.
But not nearly as bad as the "over exposed film" look used on the planet in NEM.
The NEM effect was like "lol video game bloom lighting!!!11eleventyone"
I actually liked having the sunlit Ten Forward. Gave it a lot of warmth, which it needed, since the color palette is usually pretty cold. And gave Picard's quarters some really cool dramatic lighting.
I actually liked having the sunlit Ten Forward. Gave it a lot of warmth, which it needed, since the color palette is usually pretty cold. And gave Picard's quarters some really cool dramatic lighting.
FC showed how well the TNG cast could hold up to the big screen and note that it is missing all of the TNG elements/cliches that are common in all of the other movies (like a light-hearted comedy-inspired introduction to the TNG cast (Holodeck in GEN, the little alien ceremony in INS and the wedding in NEM). I just wish they had kept that tone, that look, that drama and that strong of writing.
But I can only suspect that Berman put a lot of pressure on the other two movies to lighten them up/dumb them down for the general audience.
But, FC... DAMN. It was just awesome. Awesome score (the main theme playing near the end when the Vulcans arrive... wow) awesome effects, awesome story, everything about it was just well done. It's only "hurt" by the "tailer moment" lines from Worf and Data but overall it's just a great, great movie.
The other TNG movies are just... bleh.
And Generations suffers mostly from studio pressure to involve some of the TOS cast. Because, TNG's 7 year run and being one of the if not THE most popular syndicated program and the most sucessful Trek series to warrant it carrying a movie on its own.
Between the ugly Voyager uniforms and the pointless extra stations on the bridge, I didn't like it. The outward appearance of the ship was no better of worse than I have seen on the show.
I agree about the lighting for dramatic effect. IT was especially useful during the Picard/Troi scene in his ready room, because it gave better contrast to the sun going off.
I agree about the lighting for dramatic effect. IT was especially useful during the Picard/Troi scene in his ready room, because it gave better contrast to the sun going off.
The Picard/Troi scene took place in his quarters. And, note, that while in them the ambient lights on the arch/roof supports are off.
