I loved the way the Enterprise-D looked in "Generations"?

[Jayson]

Am I the only one who liked having both types of uniforms being used. Between that and having the sets colored on black that harken back to "Yesterday's Enterprise." I thought it made the Enterprise-D look better than it ever did on the show. I liked it so much there were even times when I watched the tv show I would turn the color,tint down on my tv to sort of replicate that look in the regular shows.

Jason

 

[trentman359]

Having both uniforms used was strange but I really liked the lighting throughout the ship. It did make the movie seem more dramatic. If the show was made now maybe they would have lit it like that.

 

[Jayson]

It might heve been kind of strange with the different uniforms but what I liked about it was it offered variety. I always wish there had been more variety. I wish the engineers for example had worn outfits that looked more like work coveralls or protection suits like Scotty did in the movies and then the security officers wore uniforms that are more military-oriented looking. Plus I don't see why the doctors couldn't wear civilian clothes unless they were going on a away mission.

Jason

 

[Admiral Bear]

Always thought Riker looked kinda bad ass in the DS9 uniform he wore in Generations. However I've never felt it quite suited Picard as well as the 3rd season TNG uniform.

Loved the Ent-D lighting on that film and always will. I wish they'd kept her going. I've never fallen in love with the Enterprise-E.

 

[T J]

I sure loved it. I was always kinda sad we never got the chance to see her in a few more films.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I too miss the D terribly...

 

[RyanKCR]

The D did have an interesting look in Generations but I'm glad she's gone. I never truly believe she was a starship just some weird geometric sculpture.

 

[Trekker4747]

Always thought Riker looked kinda bad ass in the DS9 uniform he wore in Generations. However I've never felt it quite suited Picard as well as the 3rd season TNG uniform.

Loved the Ent-D lighting on that film and always will. I wish they'd kept her going. I've never fallen in love with the Enterprise-E.

Yeah.

Riker loved how they melted Frakes down and poured him into Brooks' uniform.



Looked great!

Some of the lighting of the -D wasn't too bad, I actually kind of liked the look of the bridge lighting, but the lighting in the ready room, corridors, etc. just didn't fit the "feel" of the ship. Granted the brighter lighting from the series wouldn't translate well either, but I would think somewhere in between would've been better.

The look of the ship herself on the big-scree was *great* though. There's some beautiful shots of her in the movie.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

and 10 forward had PEOPLE in it....acting like...people...showing EMOTIONS!
Something TNG didn't do very often

 

[Trekker4747]

and 10 forward had PEOPLE in it....acting like...people...showing EMOTIONS!
Something TNG didn't do very often

Yeah. It was neat seeing 10-Fwd as the crowded bar and meeting spot that it is supposed to be (although there's got to be dozens if such places all over the ship) but, to be fair, that kind of stuff isn't something you can easily do in a TV series.

Damn. I wish they had kept that ship for the movies.

 

[Praetor]

The way the D looked in Generations was one of my favorite aspects of the movie! I particularly enjoyed the restoration that was performed on the six-footer for the use in the movie, and the set changes. I felt also that the 'coverall' uniforms from DS9 as alternates to the standard TNG uniforms was quite logical and appropriate, even if Riker was poured into Sisko's uniform. I was quite sad to see the D go, and really saw no need to blow it up when it clearly looked good on the big screen as it was.

 

[Borjis]

The way the D looked in Generations was one of my favorite aspects of the movie! I particularly enjoyed the restoration that was performed on the six-footer for the use in the movie, and the set changes.

Praetor what did they do to the six-footer? link?

Generations is playing almost every other day on Cinemax in HD (see my thread for details) until october 31 btw.

 

[Data Holmes]

Generations, while weak in alot of spots in scripting, was the best TNG movie...

Simply because it was the only one that felt like a TNG movie, and it looked amazing.

 

[Gepard]

The way the D looked in Generations was one of my favorite aspects of the movie! I particularly enjoyed the restoration that was performed on the six-footer for the use in the movie, and the set changes.

Praetor what did they do to the six-footer? link?

I haven't been able to find a link, but IIRC, the main work done was a completely new paint job, including new escape pod hatches and aztecing, and lots of additional tiny painted in detail.

 

[Crewman47]

and 10 forward had PEOPLE in it....acting like...people...showing EMOTIONS!
Something TNG didn't do very often

Yeah. It was neat seeing 10-Fwd as the crowded bar and meeting spot that it is supposed to be (although there's got to be dozens if such places all over the ship) but, to be fair, that kind of stuff isn't something you can easily do in a TV series.

Damn. I wish they had kept that ship for the movies.

If you go by either of the Blueprints there are lounges on the front edge of Deck 10 either side of 10 Forward so the crowded feel they were trying to get in the Movie to make it more realistic wouldn't really be needed as at least a quarter of the people in there would probably have been more comfortable in one of the other lounges.

Though in saying that I'm another who liked the E-D on the big screen, with all the extras added to the various sets like the corridor in Main Engineering and the control stations on the Bridge. I do agree though that they could've turned the lights up just a smidge. I always love reading that parody of Generations on that web site, Five minute.net. You get Riker always asking why it's so dark and where the extra corridor in ME came from.

 

[trevanian]

The way the D looked in Generations was one of my favorite aspects of the movie! I particularly enjoyed the restoration that was performed on the six-footer for the use in the movie, and the set changes.

Praetor what did they do to the six-footer? link?

I haven't been able to find a link, but IIRC, the main work done was a completely new paint job, including new escape pod hatches and aztecing, and lots of additional tiny painted in detail.

You can compare&contrast the 6ft paint job for the rest of the movie with the 6ft paint job for FARPOINT by looking at the stock e-d element that was recomped in the film, for the pre-cartography flyby. I think for the film it was mainly a matter of painting the ship grey rather than using the Probert blue and green. Plus it looks a little different in the warp shots and a couple of battle shots because those were done CG instead of miniature for the ship deformations.

 

[Praetor]

Quoted from Memory Alpha's entry on the Enterprise-D (found here):

Two versions of the filming miniature were built by Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) for the first season: a large six-foot model and a smaller less-detailed two-foot model, both constructed under the supervision of Ease Owyeung. Both were capable of saucer separation. The cost to construct the original models was $75,000. For the third season, Greg Jein built a new four-foot miniature. It was not built to separate, but for the first time it accurately depicted the Ten Forward windows. It first appeared in TNG: "The Defector" and completely replaced the previous two models, although stock footage of the original models was still used. The six-foot model was briefly reused for the saucer separation in TNG: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II". It was completely refurbished and overhauled for Star Trek Generations, where it represented the Enterprise alongside a computer generated version and a special twelve-foot wide saucer, created for the crash sequence. ILM crewmember Bill George relabeled the registry on the saucer to "NCC-1701-E" before the model was returned to the Paramount archives. The four-foot model was modified into the three-nacelled Enterprise from TNG: "All Good Things..." and later restored to become the USS Odyssey in DS9: "The Jem'Hadar" and the USS Venture in DS9: "The Way of the Warrior". It may have also been labeled as the USS Trinculo at some point during DS9's run.

I find that bit at the end about relabeling the model 1701-E before retiring it to the archives poignantly sad. There are pictures of that floating around the internet somewhere... and maybe on my hard drive. I'll have a look.

Personally, I think that the 4-foot model, even though it was probably the one I was most exposed to in reruns as a kid, is the one that makes the ship look bulbous and ungainly. It's been documented that it's proportions are rather different than the six-footer, and it was rather heavily panelled in detail.

 

[bullethead]

I really liked how the look of the Enterprise became a bit more... dynamic is the best word I can think of. In the space shots, the Enterprise stopped looking like a model and really came across as a huge ship and the redesign of the bridge brought more life to it, though the dark lighting kind of killed it. I would've loved to see the D on the screen in First Contact with that Generations look.

 

[trevanian]

ILM crewmember Bill George relabeled the registry on the saucer to "NCC-1701-E" before the model was returned to the Paramount archives.

Doubt it was Bill George who did that, since he is the guy who modified the TV -d's aztec to spell buttugly or whatever it was.

John Goodson, who was the ILM vfx producer and former modelshop head, is the guy I've always heard was responsible for the -e addtion

 

[FalTorPan]

Generations was one of the only times -- if not the only time -- that the Enterprise-D's interiors were lit somewhat naturalistically. The TV show -- like many TV shows -- just flooded the sets with excessive (and thus inexpensively set up) lighting.