"I like the new movie better..."
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Then watch the original crew. We'll watch something entertaining.
Hmm. I thought all Star Trek was made to be entertaining.
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Hold on. Let me just say this here since Devon doesn't think anyone understands what an opinion is.
o·pin·ion
- a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
And what's my opinion? The new Star Trek movie sucks. Anyone else want to waste more time on that?
And all Fords are made to be good cars. Reality gets in the way though and a lot of Fords and Star Trek is pure shit.
kkozoriz1
Fleet Captain
As long as nobody includes XI in that....
Char Aznable
Lieutenant Commander
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number6
Vice Admiral
You seem to waste a lot of time on it.
Look, I concede that Star Trek XI was a massive financial success, was regarded very well by most major film critics, and was popular with a large segment of fandom. It would be silly to contest this since you can read critics' reviews of the film and check box office numbers.
That said, as I'm sure people are aware, movies that are hits and well regarded when they come out often are less well regarded at a later point, and there are many classics that weren't thought very highly of upon their release.
Historians tend to shy away from analyzing the long-term impact of an event or political administration when it is still too recent to be accurately studied. It is similarly futile to try to gauge the long-term legacy of a movie within a few years of what was a major release.
Maybe I and others writing in this thread and on this board are wrong, and Star Trek XI will continue to be thought of as among the best if not the best of the Trek film franchise, and exactly what Star Trek needed to contine in a succesful direction.
But my feeling is that some years down the road, Trek09 is going to look like an empty summer blockbuster that pales in comparison to Trek movies like TWOK, TUC, and FC, and there's going to be a reaction of "so many fans went nuts over THAT?!"
That said, as I'm sure people are aware, movies that are hits and well regarded when they come out often are less well regarded at a later point, and there are many classics that weren't thought very highly of upon their release.
Historians tend to shy away from analyzing the long-term impact of an event or political administration when it is still too recent to be accurately studied. It is similarly futile to try to gauge the long-term legacy of a movie within a few years of what was a major release.
Maybe I and others writing in this thread and on this board are wrong, and Star Trek XI will continue to be thought of as among the best if not the best of the Trek film franchise, and exactly what Star Trek needed to contine in a succesful direction.
But my feeling is that some years down the road, Trek09 is going to look like an empty summer blockbuster that pales in comparison to Trek movies like TWOK, TUC, and FC, and there's going to be a reaction of "so many fans went nuts over THAT?!"
No, just you. Otherwise you would have said "I still think it sucks" instead of "It still sucks." Nice back peddling though.
Apparently you do since you're going to keep repeating it as you have non-stop for the past year or so.
number6
Vice Admiral
Facts are facts.
So what? I think this is wishful thinking on those who predicted the film's failure then started moving the goalposts on what constitutes a failure once reality intervened.
Historians?? Really?? I think you're reading way too much into your own theory. Simply put, this film was the first major hit movie for the Star Trek film franchise in nearly 10 years. Of course Paramount is going to do what they can do keep that momentum flowing. If the next two do well enough, Abrams and Co will have successfully added their own chapter to the Star Trek legacy, just like all his predecessors did.
The facts seem to lean toward that conclusion.
Not if the next film is at least as successful.
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Here's a pop quiz:
1. If you liked the movie when you saw it, did someone on the Internet subsequently convince you it was lousy?
2. If you hated the movie when you saw it (or refused to see it), did someone on the Internet subsequently convince you it was brilliant?
Just wondering.
1. If you liked the movie when you saw it, did someone on the Internet subsequently convince you it was lousy?
2. If you hated the movie when you saw it (or refused to see it), did someone on the Internet subsequently convince you it was brilliant?
Just wondering.
Number6 is definitely right about the role the next film will play in future perceptions of this one. Because if the next one is a huge hit as well, then Star Trek XI becomes the first in a line of succesful hits.
I know your posts are directed to all folks in this thread, just wanted to say I wasn't here predicting box office failure for the new film in '09. Despite my disappointment with the film itself, I'm glad that it did well enough to ensure the continuation of the franchise and ensure new the development of new works.
I am after all, a Star Trek fan, even if I dislike a particular film.
I know your posts are directed to all folks in this thread, just wanted to say I wasn't here predicting box office failure for the new film in '09. Despite my disappointment with the film itself, I'm glad that it did well enough to ensure the continuation of the franchise and ensure new the development of new works.
I am after all, a Star Trek fan, even if I dislike a particular film.
No.
I don't know...for me, the meh-ness of the Matrix sequels don't detract from the original. So even if we get two sub-par sequels, I'll still look back fondly on the "original," though with a sense of missed possibilities.
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