^That's true. Spock had issues with his humanity and started coming to terms... 
I just realized why I rate TMP as the best movie!
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I'd say designed for the sake of bad design ... shoot, look at another 1979 flick that could be called 'designed just for design's sake' ... ALIEN (or any R Scott flick.) The difference is that the Scott films, regardless of their flaws in design and plot, at least look interesting. I hate the exposed and easily-bumped-into toggle switches in ALIEN, but acknowledge that the look works. TMP's color scheme and lack of detail (not even vents in the consoles, nothing to please the eye) manages to make scientific credibility look like a bad thing. And lighting from the floor makes everybody look bad as well as being nonsensical, unless you have everybody on the bridge lying on their backs on the floor to read their clipboards.
Indeed, that was Spock's "obvious and essential" thing: that his humanity--his friendships--were what made life worth living.
Bad cop to my good?
So, are you saying it would be OK for every Trek movie to be superficially very similar to a TOS episode? Couldn't the "fundamental differences" have been expressed in a different story?
In TMP, Shatner played Kirk very much like he did in TOS, a no nonsense, man of action. If he seemed less happy it was because he had been behind a desk too long, and without green alien pussy.
In Star Trek II, Shatner started playing Kirk in a different way. He was softer and didn't have the same kind of likable, slightly pompous, stoicism.
In Star Trek II, Shatner started playing Kirk in a different way. He was softer and didn't have the same kind of likable, slightly pompous, stoicism.
I dunno, Kirk never had THAT much of a stick up his ass. It helps that McCoy calls him on it.
The Kirk of TWOK was older. I think it was entirely consistent with the character as played in TOS. People start to have doubts as they hit middle age. Believe me.
Jim seemed to have grown up a bit in TWOK...
I think that's the point. The Kirk of TMP was essentially supposed to be the Kirk of the series, except that he was grouchy because he had been behind a desk too long. OTOH, the Kirk of TWOK was supposed to be an older, more mature and (at that particular time) rather depressed version of the character who, by the end of the film, lost the depressed part as he came to terms with his aging and what life still had to offer him.
It's actually some fairly good character development between the two films that was unfortunately lost as Shatner stopped playing Kirk in later films and just started playing William Shatner.
It's actually some fairly good character development between the two films that was unfortunately lost as Shatner stopped playing Kirk in later films and just started playing William Shatner.
^ ...and if he'd written "Or maybe TWOK is the best Star Trek movie because it's the only one that's actually STAR TREK" he would have been what?
A dolt?
A dolt?
I think it's the best Trek movie because so far it's the only one that has been a movie in terms of cinematic 'oomph'. The rest have been jumped-up telemovies, in my opinion.
