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I forgot how genuinely funny the two Addams Family films were.

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Don't get me wrong, I've always enjoyed these two films (note I said two, I don't consider that tv movie to be part of the films series), but watching them today I was reminded about how funny they actually are. It's not that I'm hard to please, but usually I'll see something funny and laugh out of instinct, like I saw a funny thing happen so I'll make myself laugh. We all do it.

Not so here. What really helps sell these films is the cast. Raul Julia, Anjelica Huston, Christopher Lloyd and Christina Ricci are all so perfectly cast and inhibit their characters, at times it's easy to forget that I'm watching Lloyd, or Julia, etc. and just get caught up in the scene.

With that said, neither film is perfect, the first one revolves around Fester and his amnesia, which feels like a cheat. At least when I first saw it I was upset that we finally get a film of these characters and the first film is spent with a fake Fester (well, till the end, but you know...)

The second film is much funner, but it suffers from having too many plotlines going on at once. We jump from each situation so often it's hard to really get a feeling for each storyline. It comes off like a series of skits, we get a set up and then a punch line, then bam off to the next scene. Fortunately this works for the most part, and the film is still enjoyable, thanks largely to (as mentioned above) the cast.

Raul Julia's untimely passing killed any chance of a third film happening. Had things been different, I would have loved to have seen a third film, this cast really deserved it. But without Julia it was a wise move to end the series.

Now I hear Tim Burton is working on a stop motion remake of The Addams Family. I suppose that has the potential to be good, but in my mind nothing is going to top the cast of these two films.
 
Not much to add since you covered everything so well. Well-put, I guess! While the movies hold up for me considering that they are two years apart, I also watched them back-to-back this weekend and found the two movies seemed too Fester-centric when watched so close together. I wish that the second film had focused on a different character for their A-Plot.
 
While it's true Fester's role drives both movie's plots, it's helped by the fact that Lloyd puts in such a good performance. Also it works because unlike the show, Fester is Gomez's brother in the films, and thus puts Raul Julia front and center as well.
 
I love the first film, but didn't get to see the second one until this year. Even with many years separating the viewings, it felt like old home week and I laughed many times. Of particular hilarity was the events at camp. Priceless. All of it. :lol:
 
They did a couple of tv movies, IIRC, with some of the original cast in one of them..

The first Raul Julia-era movie was fantastic. I found the second too Fester-centric.. We got his story out of the way with the first movie... Why did we need to have him be front and center in the second? The scenes with the kids at camp were my favorite part of the film.

As much as I'm not a big fan of Burton's movies, I think a clay-mation (do they still use clay or would it be CGI?) Addams Family would be a lot of fun!
 
I think they did do a forgettable TV movie with Tim Curry as Gomez.

Which was fantastic casting, and it's a shame it wasn't in a worthwhile film. Curry would've been a worthy replacement for Julia if they'd continued the film series.

It also had Daryl Hannah as Morticia, and IIRC I found that a poor match of actress to role. I really, really like Daryl Hannah, but she wasn't right for Morticia.
 
I think they did do a forgettable TV movie with Tim Curry as Gomez.

I never saw it and I really have no intention to. Which is why I never brought it up.

IIRC though, it was made with the majority of the cast from "The New Addams Family" show that Fox had going for a while.
 
Girl in the Hospital Waiting Room: And then Mommy kissed Daddy, and the angel told the stork and the stork flew down from heaven and left a diamond under a leaf in the cabbage patch and the diamond turned into a baby.

Pugsley: Our parents are having a baby too.

Wednesday: They had sex.
:lol:
 
I think they did do a forgettable TV movie with Tim Curry as Gomez.

I never saw it and I really have no intention to. Which is why I never brought it up.

IIRC though, it was made with the majority of the cast from "The New Addams Family" show that Fox had going for a while.

Nope, according to IMDb, the direct-to-video Addams Family Reunion and the TV series The New Addams Family had only one cast member in common, Nicole Fugere as Wednesday. But Reunion did have two cast members from the theatrical feature films, Carel Struycken as Lurch and Christopher Hart('s hand) as Thing.
 
I must have read some bad info then, cause I was under the impression that the tv movie was some kind of pilot for the show. I mean, you know, without Darryl Hannah and Tim Curry though.

Anyways, I kind of liked the new show, the guy playing Gomez did a pretty decent John Astin impression. But it was too much of a mishmash of styles. Some actors seemed like they were playing the movie versions while others (like the guy playing Gomez), seemed to be channeling the older tv actors.
 
I remember loving the first movie when it came out, but I haven't seen them in a long time. I had no idea that there were recent tv movies.
 
1998 was recent once upon a time :p

What am I saying? I still consider the nineties just a short while ago, but 1999 was eleven years ago!
 
I absolutely loved Wednesday in the second movie! In the TV series, she was really just an occasional background character, but the way they wrote her character for the movie and the way Ricci played her was absolutely perfect.
 
Loved the first movie. Liked the second one. While Ricci did a good job in both, I thought the camp sequences were a little too "family film" (the whole "plight of the native american" thing came off like the studio decided it needed to stick something almost educational into the movie). I would have preferred something a little blacker and more "Kamp Krusty" there.
 
I must have read some bad info then, cause I was under the impression that the tv movie was some kind of pilot for the show. I mean, you know, without Darryl Hannah and Tim Curry though.

Let's see (does some more Googling)... They were connected to some extent, since the direct-to-video movie was produced by Fox Family Films and the series was on what was then the Fox Family Channel (before Disney/ABC acquired it). And both of them were executive-produced by Lance H. Robbins, who was president of Fox Family at the time. And the film came out a month before the show, which certainly makes it seem like a piloty sort of thing. But otherwise they were largely separate productions, with hardly any people working on both. Maybe that's because they had to be separate productions made at the same time in order to be released so close together?


I remember loving the first movie when it came out, but I haven't seen them in a long time. I had no idea that there were recent tv movies.

Just the one direct-to-video movie, and a 65-episode cable TV series that was on the air for a couple of years and then vanished. (It actually had one episode more than the original show did.)


Loved the first movie. Liked the second one. While Ricci did a good job in both, I thought the camp sequences were a little too "family film" (the whole "plight of the native american" thing came off like the studio decided it needed to stick something almost educational into the movie). I would have preferred something a little blacker and more "Kamp Krusty" there.

I don't know... the Addams Family siding with the outsiders, the ones rejected by the mainstream of society, seems perfectly in character for them. And I didn't really see the Native American stuff as an afterschool-special kind of message, but just an excuse for Wednesday to lead a violent uprising against the forces of conformity.
 
Don't get me wrong, I've always enjoyed these two films (note I said two, I don't consider that tv movie to be part of the films series), but watching them today I was reminded about how funny they actually are. It's not that I'm hard to please, but usually I'll see something funny and laugh out of instinct, like I saw a funny thing happen so I'll make myself laugh. We all do it.

Not so here. What really helps sell these films is the cast. Raul Julia, Anjelica Huston, Christopher Lloyd and Christina Ricci are all so perfectly cast and inhibit their characters, at times it's easy to forget that I'm watching Lloyd, or Julia, etc. and just get caught up in the scene.

With that said, neither film is perfect, the first one revolves around Fester and his amnesia, which feels like a cheat. At least when I first saw it I was upset that we finally get a film of these characters and the first film is spent with a fake Fester (well, till the end, but you know...)

The second film is much funner, but it suffers from having too many plotlines going on at once. We jump from each situation so often it's hard to really get a feeling for each storyline. It comes off like a series of skits, we get a set up and then a punch line, then bam off to the next scene. Fortunately this works for the most part, and the film is still enjoyable, thanks largely to (as mentioned above) the cast.

Raul Julia's untimely passing killed any chance of a third film happening. Had things been different, I would have loved to have seen a third film, this cast really deserved it. But without Julia it was a wise move to end the series.

Now I hear Tim Burton is working on a stop motion remake of The Addams Family. I suppose that has the potential to be good, but in my mind nothing is going to top the cast of these two films.
Agreed. They're in part what made both of those movies. Everyone played their parts really well. And the writing and dialogue in the films are good too.

As for Tim Burton, all I have to say to that is this: no. And if it does happen, I won't go and watch it. I rather have the memory of the Raul Julia Addams Family films in my head :).
 
To me, the idea of a stop-motion Addams Family from Tim Burton sounds awesome. His live-action films are hit-or-miss, but I loved Corpse Bride, and it would be cool to see a feature built around the original cartoon versions of Charles Addams's characters rather than their human approximations. To date, the only animated incarnations we've seen of the Addams Family have been from Hanna-Barbera and have thus been rather watered down from the originals.
 
I don't know... the Addams Family siding with the outsiders, the ones rejected by the mainstream of society, seems perfectly in character for them.

That's actually part of why, to me, it didn't work.

The Addamses are kind of parodies of old money bluebloods and part of their humor is that they don't see themselves as outsiders rejected by the mainstream, but as perfectly normal people. If anything, they see themselves as above the mainstream.

Furthermore, another part of the joke is that they aren't exactly benign figures. Their house is covered with hunting trophies, Gomez is fond of swordplay and supposedly he took great pride in making a "killing" in the stock market and bespoiling nature through his business schemes.
 
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