I enjoyed Norton's Hulk but...

[melancholymecha]

I liked it but...I really think the next Hulk film they should not do a cgi Hulk. Mostly b/c everytime they showed a closeup of Hulk's face I kept thinking of Shrek with Trent Reznor's Fragile era haircut. He was so cute & cuddly, especially when he made those sad faces. I dont know if maybe they were going for that. Also the final big fight b/w him & Roth, sometimes I felt like I was watching a video game fight. Maybe next time they really out to try out some new make-up & prosthetics work. I think it worked well for Thing.

btw, should I even bother to watch the Ang Lee version now?

 

[Trekker4747]

I liked it but...I really think the next Hulk film they should not do a cgi Hulk. Mostly b/c everytime they showed a closeup of Hulk's face I kept thinking of Shrek with Trent Reznor's Fragile era haircut. He was so cute & cuddly, especially when he made those sad faces. I dont know if maybe they were going for that. Also the final big fight b/w him & Roth, sometimes I felt like I was watching a video game fight. Maybe next time they really out to try out some new make-up & prosthetics work. I think it worked well for Thing.

btw, should I even bother to watch the Ang Lee version now?

Hmmm.

I'm going to say "Yes."

Only because everyone should "enjoy" such a level of "suck" to know how bad things really can be.

 

[Kross]

And they should end the movie with Norton walking along a dirt road, backpack slung over one shoulder while hitchhiking.

 

[hyzmarca]

I liked the Ang Lee Hulk. But that's solely because of the CGI Hulk. Everything else sucked, but Ang did the mo-cap himself really brought serious powerful emotion to it. He even channeled Ferrigno a little bit. Best Hulk since the TV series. The other characters, however, sucked.

Norton's movie has the opposite problem. Hulk isn't really the star, Banner is, and the human characters outshine the big green guy. The plot is awesomer, and the fights are awesomer, but the mocap just doesn't ahve the same level of emotional intensity.

 

[rafterman1701]

The CG's fine in both. I'm sorry, but I don't want to see a guy in rubber and green paint for this. Thing looked like crap in Fantastic Four. Just because the CGI wasn't great before doesn't mean it can't be better next time.

 

[theenglish]

I really enjoyed the Norton version in a popcorn flick kind of way, but I think a non-CGI for close-up and still shots could work very well. LOTR showed how effectively a combination of CGI and camera work can really make different sized characters work.

I am in the minority in that I really thought Ang Lee's was superior to the more recent film, which in my opinion, just lacked a sense of the Epic that a movie experience should have.

Norton's version just seemed more like a TV pilot when you cut out the effects.

 

[melancholymecha]

The CG's fine in both. I'm sorry, but I don't want to see a guy in rubber and green paint for this. Thing looked like crap in Fantastic Four. Just because the CGI wasn't great before doesn't mean it can't be better next time.

I didnt think Thing looked bad. He actually looked like a guy who was made of rocks and not a CGI cartoon character.
Maybe a combo of CGI & make-up work/body prosthetics for closeups would be the way to go...or maybe it wouldnt work. I dont know...but it seems nobody(the FX makers) experiments anymore, like they use to. Trying new stuff is how we got CGI dinos & the Matrix slo-mo effects. There should be more experimenting with non-CGI techniques, maybe someday they can come up with something cool & unexpected.

 

[Phily B]

There will never be a good Hulk film because green hulking monsters just look fucking stupid.

 

[Trevacious]

There will never be a good Hulk film because green hulking monsters just look fucking stupid.

Well, then it's time for Joe Fixit.

 

[The Boy Who Cried Worf]

The best thing about the Norton version was it made me appreciate the Lee version more. Maybe for the next film they could not do an incredibly derivative military chase movie that completely ignores any psychological insight into Banner or the Hulk.

 

[Bri]

There will never be a good Hulk film because green hulking monsters just look fucking stupid.

Well, then it's time for Joe Fixit.

Right on!

Bri

 

[Bri]

And they should end the movie with Norton walking along a dirt road, backpack slung over one shoulder while hitchhiking.

Y'know, I liked the movie a lot, but my major problem with it is the TV show type stuff. The tv show origin of the Hulk is nowhere near as cool as the Hulk's comic origin.

In the tv show Banner infects himself.

In the comic a bomb went off behind him as he saved Rick Jones's life.

The movie/tv Hulk < comic Hulk! It loses the entire sense of self sacrifice.

Bri

 

[Bri]

The best thing about the Norton version was it made me appreciate the Lee version more. Maybe for the next film they could not do an incredibly derivative military chase movie that completely ignores any psychological insight into Banner or the Hulk.

I also like the Ang Lee Hulk more than most seem to. I prefer the new one though.

Bri

 

[FalTorPan]

The CG's fine in both. I'm sorry, but I don't want to see a guy in rubber and green paint for this. Thing looked like crap in Fantastic Four. Just because the CGI wasn't great before doesn't mean it can't be better next time.

I didnt think Thing looked bad. He actually looked like a guy who was made of rocks and not a CGI cartoon character.
Maybe a combo of CGI & make-up work/body prosthetics for closeups would be the way to go...or maybe it wouldnt work. I dont know...but it seems nobody(the FX makers) experiments anymore, like they use to. Trying new stuff is how we got CGI dinos & the Matrix slo-mo effects. There should be more experimenting with non-CGI techniques, maybe someday they can come up with something cool & unexpected.

I thought The Thing looked stupid as well, and I thought the CG Hulk looked good in both films.

 

[melancholymecha]

ok, well I finally saw the Ang Lee version & it was ok, until the last 20 minutes around right after he's captured in San Fran, then it just kinda falls apart doesnt it? what was all that at the end with him fighting his dad & why did they have him & his dad sit there in the dark in that room and 10 minutes of Nick Nolte doing his crazy man shtick? then he goes all Tetsuo? (but seriously, what exactly where they going to do with those 2, where they going to execute them?)

also, wow did Lee overdo the artsy fartsy stuff, the split screens & freeze frames & weird colors, I think it could have been toned down a bit...

I'll give Lee credit in trying to put some meat into a comic book movie but I cant really say its any better or worse than the Norton version. I think the later version had a bettter ending...I liked Hulk's scenes with Betty in Lee's more, they were touching and sad. But I liked them in Norton's version too. Actually, ok Ill admit my fave bits in Hulk movies are always right after Hulk goes bat-shit & calms down & he goes to Betty all mopey & puppy-eyed like a little kid who just broke a cookie jar.

 

[Agenda]

They have yet to make a great Hulk movie. And next time, I want to see a gamma bomb origin. There is something iconic about this image that was missing from both films.

 

[Grant]

The CG's fine in both. I'm sorry, but I don't want to see a guy in rubber and green paint for this. Thing looked like crap in Fantastic Four. Just because the CGI wasn't great before doesn't mean it can't be better next time.

Agreed. Thing looked like crap. How they thought that lame rubber suit would actually be like the rock creature he is supposed to be---I'll never understand.

CGI isn't perfect, but it's way better than a guy in a suit.


BEWARE POPO BAWA !!!!!!

 

[Dusty Ayres]

The CG's fine in both. I'm sorry, but I don't want to see a guy in rubber and green paint for this. Thing looked like crap in Fantastic Four. Just because the CGI wasn't great before doesn't mean it can't be better next time.

Hear, hear; just what I said about the Thing myself a long time ago.

Face it, people, the Hulk will look like shit if it's a guy with rubber bits. The Hulk worked for me the first time I saw him, and he still does today. All else is just the same old anti-CGI bullshit that should stop.

 

[Grant]

The best thing about the Norton version was it made me appreciate the Lee version more. Maybe for the next film they could not do an incredibly derivative military chase movie that completely ignores any psychological insight into Banner or the Hulk.

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I had to sit in a theater with a hundred parents and watch them squirm as their kids watched all that non-sense father/son BS that had nothing to do with the original comic. Turning a summer popcorn action flick into a slow boring daitribe about an insane abusive father was idiotic.

I love the folks who think is was great to turn the Hulk comic into this pseudo-intelectual 'thoughtful' story.

Make all the movies like that you want---but don't call it Hulk.


BEWARE POPO BAWA !!!!

 

[Grant]

They have yet to make a great Hulk movie. And next time, I want to see a gamma bomb origin. There is something iconic about this image that was missing from both films.

Yeah sure, they're gonna reboot this again just to show an above ground nuclear test. They must have $175 million lying around to try this again.