I don't care anymore

[DWF]

Well time will tell though.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I'm pretty sure Orci or Abrams said they were shooting for a PG-13 rating for the movie.

 

[xortex]

It might be true that if GR didn't include the standard bare knuckled fist fight in the second pilot, there might have been no Star Trek at all. As far as the truth is concerned, and incidently why we run Twilight zone marathons every new year, is that at least TMP tried to have some deeper meaning. The only thing I learned from TWOK was Revenge is a dish best served cold.

 

[Sharr Khan]

xortex said:
It might be true that if GR didn't include the standard bare knuckled fist fight in the second pilot, there might have been no Star Trek at all. As far as the truth is concerned, and incidently why we run Twilight zone marathons every new year, is that at least TMP tried to have some deeper meaning. The only thing I learned from TWOK was Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Who's "we", are you an executive at the SciFi channel?
And ah TMP attempt at "deeper meaning" isn't so deep - trust me no one's a better person for having watched Ilia and Decker get all ascended with the great machine. If you think TMP is telling you anything of worth you need to broaden your horizons

Oh and Pike assaulted a Talosian to make a point gave in to his primal urges even threatened to phaser their heads off... so the whole standard fight was there from the start.

Sharr

 

[xortex]

Sharr Khan said:

xortex said:
It might be true that if GR didn't include the standard bare knuckled fist fight in the second pilot, there might have been no Star Trek at all. As far as the truth is concerned, and incidently why we run Twilight zone marathons every new year, is that at least TMP tried to have some deeper meaning. The only thing I learned from TWOK was Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Who's "we", are you an executive at the SciFi channel?
And ah TMP attempt at "deeper meaning" isn't so deep - trust me no one's a better person for having watched Ilia and Decker get all ascended with the great machine. If you think TMP is telling you anything of worth you need to broaden your horizons

Oh and Pike assaulted a Talosian to make a point gave in to his primal urges even threatened to phaser their heads off... so the whole standard fight was there from the start.

Sharr

The we is all of us. There might not have been a series if the second pilot didn't sell which Lucille Ball thought was about Stars who went overseas to entertain the troops.
Like I said, TMP tried. Just because it didn't reach it's goal doesn't mean it was going in the totally wrong direction.
Fighting and alien with a big head doesn't count.

 

[Noname Given]

xortex said:
[Like I said, TMP tried. Just because it didn't reach it's goal doesn't mean it was going in the totally wrong direction.

Fpr me, to this day, the only thing ST:TMP tried to do was to spend 40 million dollars re-making a YV series script originally shot in 1967 (aka The Changeling) with a slightly modified ending.

 

[Sharr Khan]

Noname Given said:

xortex said:
[Like I said, TMP tried. Just because it didn't reach it's goal doesn't mean it was going in the totally wrong direction.

Fpr me, to this day, the only thing ST:TMP tried to do was to spend 40 million dollars re-making a YV series script originally shot in 1967 (aka The Changeling) with a slightly modified ending.

Well I'm pretty sure if Gene Roddenberry, that creative genius imbued with pure originality were making this flick Spock would be going back in time to either kill JFK or save him - I can't remember which it was supposed to be...

Hey I've got no problem with "messages" provided they serve the story not the other way around when then the message becomes propaganda.

Or how Frank Herbert said it:

All of this encapsulates the stuff of high drama, of entertainment-and I'm in the entertainment business first. It's all right to include a pot of message, but that's not the key ingredient of wide readership.

Or in this case viewership.

Sharr