I disliked the final ep of Voyager

[Captain Zog]

There were several things wrong with it:

1. Time travel as a plot device - uninspired and woefully unoriginal.

2. The Borg - Now, don't get me wrong. I loved these guys back in the day, but by Season 7 the Borg had just become so passe.

3. Voyager returning home - Bad decision. Would have been much more striking if it was made clear at the end that the ship never got back to the Alpha Quadrant.

4. The ending of the final episode seemed rushed. Compare it to the final ep of DS9. Now THAT was a good series finale.

So overall, Voyager was a good series, but it ended on a weak note.

 

[Anika Hanson]

Well I liked it, but more for seeing how things would have worked out if it had taken her 20 odd years to get them back. It was great to see all the characters in the future and Tuvok and his madness was amusing to see too. As for the actual storyline, I agree it could have been better they had over-used the borg at that point. It would have been better if maybe people had died in the last episode or if some people were left behind and are still stuck out there.

I also didnt like the idea of them destroying the transwap- hubb. Not only did she manage to go back in time and bring her ship back 15 years early she also managed to defeat the borg in the proccess. It was almost as if the borg were not such a great threat since Janeway always had an answer for everything.

 

[Deckerd]

I hated the end of DS9. The fact that TPTB couldn't bring themselves to show one single scene with Jadzia was disgusting.

 

[Geck]

I hated the end of DS9. The fact that TPTB couldn't bring themselves to show one single scene with Jadzia was disgusting.

That's because Terry Farrell wouldn't let them, I believe. They had used a voice clip of her a few episodes before without permission, so she wouldn't grant them permission to include her in the montages in WYLB. Someone correct me if I got the story wrong.

As for Endgame, I agree it was largely a mess and had no emotional impact and no real closure. It should have been stretched out over a multi-episode arc, allowing time at the end for at least a glimpse of what happened after they got home.

 

[Johnhead99]

I prefer the re-launch of books of Voyager over the finale. With that being said though, the re-launch is only above average; far from great. Kirsten Beyer will revive it with Full Circle.

 

[Falcor5]

I always wished that Voyager had gotten home before the final episode so we could see what happens to the crew and ship once it returned home. Sure there are books but I would have preferred to see it on the show.

 

[Spock-2012]

Still, the one line... "Set a course...for home." You've got to admit that was good. I had no problem with the episode...I rather loved it. However, it would have been nice to stay in the Delta Quadrant.

I did find, though, that Neelix leaving was kind of pointless. (I know that wasn't the last episode, but still.) I mean...it was right near the end...and he LEAVES?? (Not that I wasn't pleased...)

 

[Akiraprise]

I did find, though, that Neelix leaving was kind of pointless. (I know that wasn't the last episode, but still.) I mean...it was right near the end...and he LEAVES?? (Not that I wasn't pleased...)

Neelix, of all the characters, got the most conclusion. He got reunited with his people and started a new family. He got the emotional reunion that most people here wanted for the crew in Endgame. Neelix got the teary reunion, nobody else did. How odd is that?

 

[kimc]

Oh, the many reasons to hate "Endgame" and I say this as a huge fan of the show:

1) C/7 is icky
2) Time travel had already been done several times during the show's run
3) The borg have also been overused during the show's run
4) C/7 is icky
5) The disregard for the ethical ramifications of Janway playing with time (where the heck was Branson, anyway) were pretty disturbing.
6) Have I mentioned C/7 yet? It sucked.

 

[trekkier]

"Set a course for home" was a wonderful way to end it,the borg-kinda defanged but still cool, time travel? eh cool enough. but i waited 7 frakking years to see them get to earth and reunite with their families, THAT is my only complaint.

 

[Broccoli]

It was a good finale for Voyager. It highlighted all of Voyager's hallmarks: awesome battles, Borg, Time Travel, Janeway-as-mother, confusing as hell technobabble, and the "are we home or aren't we" stuff. I thought that was a good way to work a finale for a show like Voyager that didn't have a strict story arc other than the eventual goal to get home.

IMO, the show was never really about "what happens after they get home." It was about "how do we get home." Besides, we get some insight into their return when we see the future: Everything is fine (minus the things Janeway wanted to change). I suspect the same would have happened even though they were home early.

The only thing I would have really changed would have been to get rid of the C/7 story line (or at least work it into the episodes leading up to the finale, so it doesn't completely come out of nowhere) and have a longer shot of Voyager approaching Earth at the end.

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

Oh, the many reasons to hate "Endgame" and I say this as a huge fan of the show:

1) C/7 is icky
2) Time travel had already been done several times during the show's run
3) The borg have also been overused during the show's run
4) C/7 is icky
5) The disregard for the ethical ramifications of Janway playing with time (where the heck was Branson, anyway) were pretty disturbing.
6) Have I mentioned C/7 yet? It sucked.

Captain Braxton was in jail!!

 

[dauntless]

Didn't much like it myself. I had hoped for an open ending - did they get home or not - or for their attempt to fail and be either stuck in the Delta Quadrant, or to be thrown somewhere else. Still, if they'd been stuck in the DQ, we wouldn't have had Admiral Janeway's cameo in Nemesis.

 

[Cyke101]

Oh, the many reasons to hate "Endgame" and I say this as a huge fan of the show:

1) C/7 is icky
2) Time travel had already been done several times during the show's run
3) The borg have also been overused during the show's run
4) C/7 is icky
5) The disregard for the ethical ramifications of Janway playing with time (where the heck was Branson, anyway) were pretty disturbing.
6) Have I mentioned C/7 yet? It sucked.

Captain Braxton was in jail!!

You think in such three-dimensional terms

A younger, less-delusional Braxton could have easily gone back in time!

 

[Jeri]

It was a good finale for Voyager. It highlighted all of Voyager's hallmarks: awesome battles, Borg, Time Travel, Janeway-as-mother, confusing as hell technobabble, and the "are we home or aren't we" stuff. I thought that was a good way to work a finale for a show like Voyager that didn't have a strict story arc other than the eventual goal to get home.

I don't really have a horse in this race (I enjoyed the finale, so how many times can that be said over the years...); but this is an interesting summation, IMO. Personally, I am not confused by technobabble; I love the stuff. People think TOS didn't have technobabble, but I was there watching it on NBC in the '60's; and believe me, people thought it was an egghead show at the time. Concepts and phrases that have become part of the culture were new to it then.

 

[2 of 10]

Good and not so good parts of the Voyager series ending episode. Really did not have a huge problem with the Time travel being part of the show. The Borg had been such a huge part of Voyage, that I kind of liked that fact Voyager gave them a part in the last episode. The ending is what really bugged me, it was so fast. I really wanted to see what happened after they got back. It could have been better, it could have been worse, I suppose that most Trek series ending could say the same thing about it.

BTW, How did TOS end it's run??

 

[Aike]

^Kirk turned into a woman

 

[Jeri]

Yes, that's absolutely right.

Best thing to do at the end of TOS is immediately start over with Season One. TOS was supposed to have been a five-year mission, but got cancelled after three.

 

[exodus]

Come on, we gotta give a shout out to Alice Krieg returning as the Borg Queen. Her moments with Adm. Janeway was a great show down!

Queen: "You've infected us!?!"
Janeway: "Probably something you assimilated."

What also was so wicked about Krieg re-playing the Queen in the last is ep. is, even as she's dying she looks like she enjoying it. It's that slimey wicked seduction that she brought to the role is what made the character so great to begin with. Thompson was cool but she didn't have that something extra.

It think also what's a great twist was Seven's prediction about Janeway in "Imperfection" came true. Adm. Janeway never did get over Seven dying and because of it, she lost her soul too. She set out on the journey to explore the Delta Quad. and doing it staying strong to her ethics and morals but lost them all getting home. She lost her daughter(Seven), her potental mate(Chakotay) & her best friend lost his mind(Tuvok). She had nothing worth coming home too, she had to go back and save her soul by saving Seven or die a a twisted soul like Capt. Ransom.

The conclusion beyond that didn't matter, Janeway got her family back and home safe. The crew was a family unto themselves.

 

[Mossura]

How millions trillions did Janeway affect with her time changing ways?