"I can have fun when I'm sober"

[sidious618]

Teenagers should listen to their parents when their parents are right. Figuring out when they're right and when they're wrong is the real trick, isn't it?

 

[DonIago]

I think that's part of what's known as "growing up".

 

[Mallory]

One shouldn't blindly follow anyone, simple as that.

Except one's parents. They've earned the right.

Oh, what utter screaming bullshit.

Parents teach their children horrible things all the time, from bigotry and violence to ignorance of reality to greed and small-mindedness to hatred of self. No one should ever, EVER blindly do or think what anyone tells them to because regardless of if they raised you, rule you, or sign your paycheck they might be wrong. If you want to live exactly the life your parents tell you to, then great, but I pity you because you're living their life, not your's.

QFT

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ Indeed. My family was big on providing bad examples. Luckily, I knew it.

When I was a kid, my drugs were the Arts & Sciences. I didn't even touch alcohol until I was 18, and then I didn't think much of it. And this was the 70s, when most of my peers drinking, smoking weed and dropping acid as a matter of course. I was such a non-conformist.

 

[CaptainStoner]

This is not how teenagers should think, yet a growing number of them are. Discuss.

EDIT: "I can still have fun even though I'm sober"

I don't understand. It sounds like you think teenagers shouldn't be sober, but I suspect that's not what you really mean...

It just seems that teenagers should be doing this. Like, going to parties and getting drunk. It seems like a perfectly natural thing to do. Kids are less rebellious these days, and it's concerning. It feels like something is missing. The whole... growing up process is disrupted.
I'm not sayings teens should be constantly drunk, I'm just saying the measure of experimentation is going way down. Teens arent' supposed to be mature. It's something they learn through years of, you know, doing stupid shit and learning from it.
But nowadays they're maturing years ahead of themselves.

Too general. I was the non-drinking, non-drugging, sober neurotic crazy type, (the 'stoner' connote not arriving till age 23) but also quite mature (in a class that interested me). I don't buy that teens are supposed to be a mess. Maturity, and evolution, seem to have little to do with age. Age helps, but not always, and slowly when it does.
I am to this day grateful to those teachers who also saw beyond the mainstreamers, raised the bar, gave more challenging work, etc.

 

[NickInABox]

Give me one advantage of alcohol other than "It's cool and everybody should drink to be cool"

Catching a buzz is fun. One need not drink to the point of vomiting and "loss of control", you know.

This.

 

[Goji]

It's fun for some, it's not fun for others, and I don't see why either group should have a problem with the other.

 

[Thestral]

Give me one advantage of alcohol other than "It's cool and everybody should drink to be cool"

Catching a buzz is fun. One need not drink to the point of vomiting and "loss of control", you know.

This.

Like Goji said, it's fun for some and not for others. Why should those who choose to buzz (or get trashed) be bothered by those who don't and have fun in other ways?

And I'm still not seeing where having the attitude "I can have fun when I'm sober" is a bad thing, even taking all this into consideration. Because rejecting "I can have fun when I'm sober" means that you're saying you can only have fun when you're not sober, and surely that's not what you intend?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

One need not drink to the point of vomiting and "loss of control", you know.

This.

Do me a favor...once you invent time travel, go back and tell my 1995 self that. It would have saved me lots of grief.