I am sick of "special companions"
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Torchwood could...easily.
I never identified with the Companions, save in some very visceral ways, such as Rose's reaction 9's regeneration or Clara's similar reaction to 12's appearance. I enjoyed their reactions, for the most part, and found Rose's arc to be the most interesting, in a way Christopher described it-the companions are ordinary people who, by being with the Doctor, have an extraordinary impact.
I debated on the whole domestication of the TARDIS travel with Clara, but I kind of agree with it. I appreciated the fact that the Doctor was actually trying respect Clara's attempt at a normal life. I found her relationship with Danny to be very humanizing after all the "crossing the time streams" arc.
That all said, companions always end up "special" for a variety of reasons, from Martha's traveling around the Earth, to Rose's Bad Wolf, and Donna's Time Lord energy. Honestly, it feels as much a part of DW as the Daleks.
I think you're both missing Dark Judge's joke, which is that Torchwood already did screw it up.
And of course there's Sarah Jane Smith and her own independent Earth-saving career. I like the way "Death of the Doctor" established that many of the Doctor's ex-companions went on to careers in charity, activism, medicine, and the like, that they went on being heroes in their own ways.
I like the build up that all the companions get and the revisiting of them as well, so that was a world building moment.
This is one of the reasons why I enjoyed "Soccer's Apprentice" is the build up of Doctor's history, not in a hand-tying way, but as an acknowledgement that those events happened.
As for Torchwood, I personally do not care for the show, so I have not watched it since the third episode. So, yes I missed the joke and appreciate the info
And Donna went back to being the best temp in Chiswick, didn't she?
Why does she have high heels? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
Not to mention the metal bikini exoskeleton. That made the story rather hard to take seriously.
Cyberwoman might have the distinction of being the worst DW-related story since Time and the Rani and Dimensions in Time. Its quite a distinction really - even Love and Monsters had a decent idea of a story and a couple of decent scenes.
I dunno, there are worse episodes of "Torchwood." My most hated episode is that one about the fairies that Jack is absolutely terrified of and that apparently have absolute power over the world. For one, it basically asserts that they're magic/supernatural, which defies the franchise's usual "magic is just sufficiently advanced science" philosophy; and for another, if these fairies are so all-powerful and unstoppable, how come the Doctor's never dealt with them? And the idea that the most terrifying and omnipotent force in the world is garden fairies is just preposterous. And seeing Jack just whimper and cower and go "There's nothing I can do" underlines how totally incompetent season-1 Torchwood was. The Doctor or Sarah Jane wouldn't have just given up like that.
I also really hate the one with the evil carnival people who come out of the old film. That's just dumb, and it's another one that seems to be pure magic.
I also really hate the one with the evil carnival people who come out of the old film. That's just dumb, and it's another one that seems to be pure magic.
Man, I've only just finished the first season - and I totally forgot this episode! I still think I hated Cyberwoman more, because it was stupid in every conceiveable level, and every possible way. Its the kind of episode you'd show on schools as one of the worst TV episodes of modern times.
The first season was mostly bad, btw, save for the last stretch of episodes which I enjoyed a good deal.
The first season was mostly bad, btw, save for the last stretch of episodes which I enjoyed a good deal.
I dunno... my memory of "Cyberwoman"'s plot is vague, but I thought it was a good idea in principle. The aftermath of Canary Wharf, a Torchwood member trying to save a half-assimilated -- sorry, half-converted colleague/girlfriend, it made sense as an extrapolation of the Doctor Who storyline that introduced Torchwood. It just had a lot of problems in the execution.
Well, Paradise Towers also had a solid idea for a story basis. Didn't stop it being utter drivel. Sometimes, execution is everything.
I liked "Paradise Towers."
I liked "The Leisure Hive"
So did I. It doesn't hold up that well in retrospect, but in the wake of the cheesy, goofy era of Graham Williams's producership, the new seriousness, substance, and production values that John Nathan-Turner brought to the show were a breath of fresh air. For all that fans complained about his tenure in his later years, he really did revitalize the show in his early years.
I don't know for what it was I liked that serial. There's plenty of stories I didn't like for instance Catrovalva which people seem to like I didn't
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