"Human Whore" Cut

[cooleddie74]

Vulcan children of the 23rd century know what a whore is?

Of course. From their history lessons.

Surak's mistress.

T'Poona-Suck.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

I just came home from a third viewing of Star Trek at my local dollar theatre, and I noticed the line "Human Whore" was cut out. I don't know if anyone remembers this line, but it was during when young Spock was fighting the bullies on Vulcan. They started to say the line but I noticed it was cut off and I'm thinking, I want my $1.50 back! lol

The missing line is probably due to a break in that copy of the film, trimmed and spliced back together. There have been other similar reports of missing bits and damaged film, as the movie shifts to the second-run theaters.

I think I also agree with you about the the missing bits of the film in second-run theaters, that reasoning seems logical.

That's why I would never, and do not ever, go to see a movie like Star Trek at a second run or dollar theater. These movies are meant to be seen first run at a theater with full Dolby surround sound and/or THX sound, and also to be frank, in DLP or IMAX format-that way, you don't get projector scratches/cuts or any of that other bullshit that you do with film. The cost of going to first run can be mega-expensive, sure, but it pays off in seeing a movie with great picture and sound.

As for cost-I'm a Scene member at my Famous Players theater, so I get food half-price, plus a free movie when I reach a certain point total. I also have a AMC Movie Watcher card that gives me the same thing as mentioned above.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

I wonder if scenes get trimmed. I saw it today at the dollar theatre and the whole scene with Captain Robau being killed was cut, or I just zoned out for a minute. I swear it jumped from the Romulans asking him what year it was and he answering, to the Enterprise is being evac'd. Strange.

It's possible. Someone mentioned earlier to me that some second-hand theatres cut scenes out, but that scene was included at the one I saw. Hopefully everything on the DVD will still be intact.

The movie will be complete on the DVD.

As to the cuts observed in second-run theaters: the longer a copy of the film remains in circulation, the more it becomes worn by being run through the projector over and over -- this was being reported even in first-run theaters as early as the third or fourth week of release. Wear includes surface scratching as a result of normal operation, but wear can also include damage which leads to projector jams or breaks in the film, after which the damaged part is cut out and the rest of the film spliced back together for further showings. Since all authorized copies of the movie remain the property of Paramount, the terms of the agreement by which theater owners receive a copy for showing the movie would most likely prohibit any such cuts for reasons other than damage to the film.

Again, that's why I don't see films like these at a dollar theater.

 

[T'Cal]

Vulcan children of the 23rd century know what a whore is?

I mean, where did they learn that?

Internet porn.

Internet Pon Farr??

 

[StarTrek1701]

Vulcan children of the 23rd century know what a whore is?

I mean, where did they learn that?

Internet porn.

You owe me a new keyboard.

 

[trevanian]

These movies are meant to be seen first run at a theater with full Dolby surround sound and/or THX sound, and also to be frank, in DLP or IMAX format-that way, you don't get projector scratches/cuts or any of that other bullshit that you do with film.

Got some seriously weird standards, dude. IMAX replacing the film projectors with digital ones is one of the saddest things that has come down the pike, qualitywise. There isn't even an approach that can rival real film imax for capture in electronic form, and seeing any current movie uprezzed from the 2k DI cheapo process most flicks go through doesn't help them anymore than seeing TUC in 70mm when it was shot in super 35.

When movies are scanned at 4K as the minimum standard, then we'll have stuff comparable to regular 35mm ... but IMAX? Huh-uh. Long ways off. And audiences are too blind to tell the dif half the time anyway, hence the getting away with cruddy visual standards that is the norm now. But hey, at least there aren't film scratches. Ohyeah, that's the tradeoff of the century.

 

[Crusher Disciple]

Today at the 2nd run theater, the "Human Whore" was there. But the "I know your face from history books" line was missing as Nero taunts Kirk while he's kicking his ass.

 

[PhasersOnStun]

We just saw Trek XI in the second run theaters this evening; human whore was there, "know your face from history" was there, etc. I don't think there were any missing lines.

 

[zacharyquintouk]

I saw Trek on a plane and they cut the 'human whore' line there, as well as making Kirk come out with the gem 'Who was that pointy-eared buzzard'

 

[Hober Mallow]

The missing line is probably due to a break in that copy of the film, trimmed and spliced back together. There have been other similar reports of missing bits and damaged film, as the movie shifts to the second-run theaters.

Yeah, I love going to second-run discount theaters, but remember that you get what you pay for.

 

[Rackon]

Saw it again over the weekend in a smallish multiplex that used to be a first run theater but is now a second run venue.

$2.50 ticket.

$3.00 special small popcorn and small drink.

BIG screen, print had a few minor scratches but was otherwise intact.

Good audience on a rainy afternoon - maybe 50-60 people. Some were repeats some were seeing for first time. Very responsive group, certainly added to my enjoyment.

Nice way to renew affection for this film.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

These movies are meant to be seen first run at a theater with full Dolby surround sound and/or THX sound, and also to be frank, in DLP or IMAX format-that way, you don't get projector scratches/cuts or any of that other bullshit that you do with film.

Got some seriously weird standards, dude. IMAX replacing the film projectors with digital ones is one of the saddest things that has come down the pike, quality-wise. There isn't even an approach that can rival real film IMAX for capture in electronic form, and seeing any current movie uprezzed from the 2k DI cheapo process most flicks go through doesn't help them anymore than seeing TUC in 70mm when it was shot in Super 35.

When movies are scanned at 4K as the minimum standard, then we'll have stuff comparable to regular 35mm ... but IMAX? Huh-uh. Long ways off. And audiences are too blind to tell the dif half the time anyway, hence the getting away with cruddy visual standards that is the norm now. But hey, at least there aren't film scratches. Oh yeah, that's the trade-off of the century.

Sorry, but I don't like projector cuts, or any other crap that happens with film (I do like using film when I take a picture, and have been thinking about getting a secondhand camera to do just that.) I prefer my movies unsullied, and DLP satisfies that in spades. Also, I see my movies first of second week, so that I get the maximum experience seeing them. And apparently, so do the people who run the Toronto After Dark film festival-half or most of the movies were DVD's, due to the costs of film processing and the like.

As for IMAX, it is film, not video, and I like it because the movies in question aren't run too much anyway, thus saving wear and tear.