Exactly.
How would you retcon Strange New Worlds?
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Exactly.
You have officially lowered my IQ my making me listen to the worst take in this thread.
Its 100 % canon like all Paramount Trek.
Could the Gorn not have different breeds that look very different from one another?
All 4 of these pictures are Dogs. Yet, they look extremely dissimilar. You get the idea.
All dogs walk on all four legs (not counting injuries). Newly "hatched" Gorn walk on 4 legs and have no arms. Adult Gorn walk on 2 legs and have 2 arms.
Does this imply a cocoon stage/metamorphosis? Is there a choice - can a Gorn choose to become a warrior race, or a brainiac race, etc?
No it isn't.
It's on par with the novels. While certain events or characters can be used, the series itself is not canon.
^ Actually, yes it is.
The so-called decanonizing of TAS died with Gene and his "office".
The so-called decanonizing of TAS died with Gene and his "office".
It used to be that Paramount did not consider TAS canon.
These days, it's considered canon, but clearly a lot of things from it are not in continuity. Like, Robert April is clearly black instead of white as in TAS. And the Bonaventure 10281NCC is clearly not the first starship in history to have warp drive installed, as Scotty claimed in TAS "The Time Trap." And Koloth never faced Kirk in battle (as Jadzia says he told Curzon in DS9 "Trials and Tribble-ations") rather than having a battle with Kirk as in TAS "More Troubles, More Tribbles." And the idea that there was a major war between Humans and the Kzinti in 2069 (TAS "The Slaver Weapon"), just six years after First Contact, is just not plausible. And the idea that starship-mounted transporter technology could be 200 years old in the 2260s (TAS "The Terratin Incident") contradicts ENT. And obviously, Michael and Sybok were both part of the Sarek family household even though we didn't see them in TAS "Yesteryear."
Bottom line: TAS has a lot of little contradictions with the rest of canon. It's best to take a "broad strokes" approach and just let go of certain TAS details. Edited to add: Arguably, that's also true of parts of TOS -- especially elements of TOS that reflected widespread 1960s cultural values that we now reject, like the casually-accepted idea that women can't be starship commanders in "Turnabout Intruder."
It's important to remember that we still know next to nothing about Gorn biology or culture. We do not, for instance, know if Gorn is a species name or a cultural or political identity common to several different species. For all we know, the juvenile Gorn encountered aboard the wreck of the USS Peregrine might have been an entirely separate species from the Gorn captain that Kirk encountered on Cestus III almost a decade later, and they both might be separate species from the Gorn who tried to sabotage the USS Defiant in the Mirror Universe. Or, as you posit, they could all be the same species, and their juvenile forms undergo a metamorphosis before their mature forms develop.
I would gently suggest that the idea that there's a such thing as a "warrior race" or a "brainiac race" is generally not going to be good biology. Gorn culture might hypothetically genetically engineer certain castes to be optimized for certain functions, but that's pure speculation with no evidence to support it. It's just as likely not the case, and also it's important not to fall into the trap of thinking in biological essentialist terms, since those terms of thinking tend to in real life lead to racial and sexual bigotry.
Anyway, the Gorn are a total blank slate. We don't even know if the Gorn La'an encountered as a child are from the same political faction the Enterprise encountered in 2259, or if either of them represent or were otherwise agents of the Gorn state that the Enterprise encountered in 2267. We don't know jack about their culture or their biology and a lot of different, mutually-contradictory hypotheses could all explain for the limited canonical information we have.
TBH the only thing in terms of retconing or keeping with canon is that somehow Kirk doesn't actually spend a ton of time with Pike since Kirk says he only met Chris briefly after his promotion to Fleet Captain.
If they bypass that, it's okay, but it's the only thing per say that is sticking out in my mind
If they bypass that, it's okay, but it's the only thing per say that is sticking out in my mind
No different than Thrawn being brought into current Star Wars despite the Timothy Zahn series being declared not canon. My point stands.
Yeah the Star Wars issue is a good example. When Disney took over they just did a blanket wipe of everything except the six Lucas movies and the Clone Wars CGI show. Everything else became legends and they've been selectively bringing what they want into canon again
TAS isn’t canon, but the best parts of it have been brought back into the canon.
It's canon. Some of it my not be in continuity but it's part of the canon.
TAS.
No clue about Thrawn, I think he was in the book than made me decide not continue reading Star Wars book.
According to who?
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