How would you retcon Strange New Worlds?
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Nothing. But let’s be real about it. They aren’t trying to make Kirk black or Spock Asian. They are choosing lesser known characters like April and Kyle to minimize predictable fan backlash.
It makes me curious to see what they will do with Sarah April.
Some things I would do:
-Include more "The Cage" characters.
-Include some of The Early Voyages comics characters.
-La'an wouldn't be a Noonien-Singh. I would make her a descendent of Colonel Green, TAS's Keniclius, or ENT's Paxton.
-M'Benga would be a relative of the M'Benga we see later on TOS.
-I like Jess Bush and her chemistry with everyone on the series, but I don't care for them jumping ahead regarding her relationship with Spock, which I feel they are going to do.
-I would have not used the Gorn, though I do like the idea I've seen of establishing there are Gorn subspecies.
-Include more "The Cage" characters.
-Include some of The Early Voyages comics characters.
-La'an wouldn't be a Noonien-Singh. I would make her a descendent of Colonel Green, TAS's Keniclius, or ENT's Paxton.
-M'Benga would be a relative of the M'Benga we see later on TOS.
-I like Jess Bush and her chemistry with everyone on the series, but I don't care for them jumping ahead regarding her relationship with Spock, which I feel they are going to do.
-I would have not used the Gorn, though I do like the idea I've seen of establishing there are Gorn subspecies.
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They might as well have been two different people. Aside from their names and that they were Vulcan females, they had very little in common.
No offense, but it’s kind of silly to compare Pike as we see him in ‘The Cage’ to the radiation-scarred non-moving expressionless husk in a beeping motorized wheelchair that we see in ‘The Menagerie.’
No offence taken and I agree.
My point was rather that we don't need to have everything explained.
It's been suggested that Kyle could be the (unnamed) assistant to Chief Pitcairn from "The Cage".
I guess it could work. Although the novelverse has already given that character a different name (Sam Yamata) and even though it's not canon I still kinda adhere to it.
Me, I'm still of the mind that Kyle will get married to a nice English girl and gradually pick up her accent. Which is why he talks the way he does in TOS.
As for TAS: April's race is hardly the only WAY different visual. Remember the Bonaventure? In TOS it looks exactly like a Connie, but when it turns up in Keiko's classroom on DS9 it's totally different. That's a difference I'm absolutely willing to accept (i.e. that the Bonnie always looked like its DS9 version). And April? I don't really care about that either since Adrian Holmes is great.
Please give the SNW Gorn a different species name. It wounds me so much they had to character-assassinate the Gorn for nothing even as they do so much good to set the stage for TOS.
Could the Gorn not have different breeds that look very different from one another?
All 4 of these pictures are Dogs. Yet, they look extremely dissimilar. You get the idea.
The entire argument of the SNW writers is that the Gorn in SNW are one and the same as the Gorn in TOS, and we are somehow supposed to believe nothing has changed about the TOS episode in which Spock says absolutely nothing to Kirk about having previously suffered repeat murder attempts by the Gorn because the Gorn are a new entity to the Federation in TOS.Could the Gorn not have different breeds that look very different from one another?
All 4 of these pictures are Dogs. Yet, they look extremely dissimilar. You get the idea.
Spock didn't seem to have an opportunity to speak to Kirk about the enemy.
@fireproof78 is correct. The Enterprise only found out that it was the Gorn they were pursuing when told by the Metrons. Spock wasn't able to get a single word in before Kirk was whisked away.
When Kirk was returned to the Enterprise, the episode was over before the topic of their enemy really came up.
Kirk did say to his recording device that he was fighting something that "the Metrons apparently called a Gorn". That could be taken a few ways. It could be taken as something he's never heard about, or it could be that he was surprised that this particular creature was called a Gorn, when it was different from what he perceived as a Gorn.
There was never much of anything good to be said for the Gorn, so they had no characters worthy of "assassination."
The Gorn were brutal, violent, and unsympathetic. It was Kirk who behaved with some compassion. Unlike in the case of the Organians and Klingons in "Errand of Mercy," at no point did even the godlike beings who set this combat up suggest that the Gorn were a species that could or would someday work or peacefully coexist with human beings.
What's a retcon?
- (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency:
"we're given a retcon for Wilf's absence from Donna's wedding in ‘The Runaway Bride’: he had Spanish Flu"
James R. Kirk < James T. Kirk
I would retcon everything except the tricorder and the communicator to be more inline with TOS.
I don't understand what the OP means by it, that's for sure. It doesn't jibe with the definition that I'm familiar with, also given and illustrated on this page.
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